I just don't like the planning meetings...which i'm in as we speak, going
on it's 5th hour. That's all. My only complaint.


On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 3:10 PM, Scott Stroz <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> I guess my point should have been:
>
> If you don't follow the guidelines for something, it is not really fair to
> complain about it when things go wrong.
>
> There are parts of 'agile' I loathe. Other parts I like - scrum being one
> of them, I find it keeps me focused more on what needs to be done.
>
> But I won't fault 'agile' if we only follow some of the guidelines and
> things go south.
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 11:16 AM, GMoney <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >
> > On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 10:08 AM, Scott Stroz <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Having them 'attend' the scrum is fine.
> > >
> > > Having them disrupt the scrum with stuff that is 'outside of scope' for
> > > scrum is not.
> > >
> > > As contractors, we should not simply give the client what they ask for
> > > (often times, what they as for is not what they want). We should guide
> > the
> > > client to what is best for the project. This includes letting them know
> > > that for an 'agile' process, it is not best for the project if they
> > attend
> > > the meeting and take things off the rails.
> > >
> >
> > Meh....i don't see the point in trying to conform a project to a
> > methodology, as opposed to the other way around.
> >
> > My project is a high visibility, highly critical, rapidly changing
> project.
> > The needs and requirements change almost daily. As such, client input can
> > be necessary daily. So they asked to use our scrums for that.
> >
> > Seems stupid for me to say "No, Agile doesn't work that way...". Seems
> more
> > reasonable to say "Our project is pretty unique, let's adapt Agile to
> work
> > the way we need it."
> >
> > So that's how we scrum, and we make it work.
> >
> >
> >
>
> 

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