Officers have multiple non lethal options available to them.

They've turned into punks
On Sep 9, 2014 1:39 PM, "Rick Faircloth" <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> Doesn't matter. He would easily have killed the cop without a gun.
> Therefore, by law,
> the cop had the right to use whatever force was necessary to stop the
> "aggressor",
> which Michael Brown was. If Michael Brown had chosen to drop to cease his
> aggression when ordered, he would be alive today. So, he decided to risk
> serious
> injury or death, acting as a terrorist. He didn't even stop after the
> first few rounds.
> He chose to die rather than submit. He appropriately suffered the
> consequences.
>
>
> On 9/9/2014 1:35 PM, LRS Scout wrote:
> > He didn't have a gun
> > On Sep 9, 2014 1:34 PM, "Rick Faircloth" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >
> >> It used to be that men settled their differences with fists. But the
> >> culture changed
> >> and offenders begin with guns, hence the cops had to respond in kind.
> >>
> >>
> >> On 9/9/2014 1:29 PM, LRS Scout wrote:
> >>> I have. Only I didn't stand by idly, I used appropriate force levels.
> >>>
> >>> It's called escalation of force principals.
> >>>
> >>> You were in the military man, it would be a violation of ROE that would
> >>> have ended with me in Leavenworth.
> >>>
> >>> Cops are supposed to be tough guys, brawling is supposed to be part of
> >> the
> >>> job.  All go straight to the gun now.
> >>> On Sep 9, 2014 1:14 PM, "Rick Faircloth" <[email protected]>
> >> wrote:
> >>>> Some kids, who are not holding firearms, should not be considered
> >>>> "unarmed".
> >>>> And, if you're referring to the 18-year-old, 290-lb, Ferguson thug
> >>>> named, Michael,
> >>>> then he is in no way, a "kid"...
> >>>>
> >>>> If you are assaulted by someone who is a threat to kill or seriously
> >>>> injure you
> >>>> by continuing their assault, then you have every right to kill the
> >>>> aggressor.
> >>>>
> >>>> No one, and I mean NO ONE on this list would stand by with a gun in
> >>>> their hand,
> >>>> and watch their spouse or child being beaten by an aggressor who they
> >>>> couldn't
> >>>> handle physically, and refuse to shoot the aggressor and allow their
> >>>> spouse or
> >>>> child to possibly be killed and state that they couldn't intervene by
> >>>> shooting
> >>>> the aggressor because he didn't have a firearm. You don't have to
> have a
> >>>> gun
> >>>> to kill someone.
> >>>>
> >>>> How many on this list would stand by and watch a loved one be killed
> by
> >> an
> >>>> assailant who doesn't possess a firearm and was only beating them with
> >>>> their
> >>>> bare hands?
> >>>>
> >>>> Would you, Scout?
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On 9/9/2014 1:05 PM, LRS Scout wrote:
> >>>>> This is why we shoot unarmed kids.....
> >>>>> On Sep 9, 2014 1:04 PM, "Rick Faircloth" <[email protected]>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>>> The women in your life, if you have any, would consider themselves
> >>>>>> fortunate
> >>>>>> to be treated the way I treat the women in my life, you asshole.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> If you have a woman in your life, would you advise her to start
> >>>> punching,
> >>>>>> spitting on, kicking, and slapping a male companion if she didn't
> like
> >>>>>> something
> >>>>>> he said or did? If not, why not, you asshole.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On 9/9/2014 12:59 PM, Scott Stroz wrote:
> >>>>>>> No, she was not.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Nothing she did warranted being punched in the face.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> If you disagree, I feel sorry for any women in your life.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 12:55 PM, Rick Faircloth <
> >>>>>> [email protected]>
> >>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> No, asshole, it reeks of "she was asking for trouble."
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Was she not asking for trouble, asshole? (Your word, Scott)
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On 9/9/2014 12:53 PM, Scott Stroz wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> More proof you are an asshole.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> This reeks of 'she had it coming to her'.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 10:38 AM, Rick Faircloth <
> >>>>>>>> [email protected]>
> >>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Women want equality. They don't want to be treated as "weaker."
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> These are the consequences of feminism.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> You can't have it both ways.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> On 9/9/2014 10:33 AM, GMoney wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>> What is with all these false equivalencies????
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> All these arguments of "Well, IF she was a man..." are
> completely
> >>>>>>>>>>> irrelevant.  She's NOT a man.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> ANd i know we want to treat anything and everything and
> everyone
> >> as
> >>>>>>>>>> equals,
> >>>>>>>>>>> but folks, there is simple nature at work here....and human
> >> males,
> >>>>>>>>>>> generally, are larger and stronger than females. I have no
> >> problem
> >>>>>> with
> >>>>>>>>>> our
> >>>>>>>>>>> laws and our general sense of moral decency reflecting that.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> If a woman half your size attacks you with a slap...you do NOT
> >> have
> >>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>> moral right to land a left hook that looked like something out
> of
> >>>>>>>> Tyson's
> >>>>>>>>>>> PUnch Out.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> If that double standard bothers you......deal with it.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 8:48 AM, Vivec <[email protected]>
> >> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Today the wife apologised for her role in the incident.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> If the wife was an athlete, and stronger than Rice, and the
> same
> >>>>>> thing
> >>>>>>>>>> had
> >>>>>>>>>>>> happened
> >>>>>>>>>>>> I just don't think that anyone would be blaming her 100% for
> >> what
> >>>>>>>>>> happened.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> There is a total skew when it comes to situations involving
> >>>> violence
> >>>>>>>>>>>> between a man and a woman.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> I also did not see two punches. I saw a single slap when she
> >>>> charged
> >>>>>>>> him
> >>>>>>>>>>>> with fists flying.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> This was not a passive abusive scenario. It also was not a
> >>>> scenario
> >>>>>>>>>> where
> >>>>>>>>>>>> the wife was fighting back to protect herself, she was the
> >>>>>> aggressor.
> >>
> >
>
> 

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