Do you have any evidence, besides your interpretation of the situation, 
that there was abusive policing in the Michael Brown incident?


On 9/9/2014 2:10 PM, LRS Scout wrote:
> Please, Sharpton is a fool.  I'm no black bloc anarchist.
>
> Liberty from abusive policing is one of the reasons we have a country today.
> On Sep 9, 2014 2:06 PM, "Rick Faircloth" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Well, if you trust the likes of Al Sharpton more than you trust the police,
>> you are on the same side as the terrorists in Ferguson.
>>
>>
>> On 9/9/2014 1:50 PM, LRS Scout wrote:
>>> Most of what you're saying has been shown to be nonsense from early
>>> reporting and even misinformation by the pd themselves.
>>> On Sep 9, 2014 1:48 PM, "Rick Faircloth" <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>>> And you know for a fact that this officer did?
>>>>
>>>> And if several rounds shot into Michael Brown, who was on drugs at the
>>>> time,
>>>> didn't stop him, do you think the officer should have risked his life by
>>>> tazing Brown, rather than utilize sufficient force to stop him for sure?
>>>>
>>>> And all of that after Brown had apparently fought with the officer,
>>>> fractured
>>>> his head and attempted to take his firearm, which which, had he been
>> able
>>>> to
>>>> get it, would have surely shot the officer to death.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 9/9/2014 1:43 PM, LRS Scout wrote:
>>>>> Officers have multiple non lethal options available to them.
>>>>>
>>>>> They've turned into punks
>>>>> On Sep 9, 2014 1:39 PM, "Rick Faircloth" <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> Doesn't matter. He would easily have killed the cop without a gun.
>>>>>> Therefore, by law,
>>>>>> the cop had the right to use whatever force was necessary to stop the
>>>>>> "aggressor",
>>>>>> which Michael Brown was. If Michael Brown had chosen to drop to cease
>>>> his
>>>>>> aggression when ordered, he would be alive today. So, he decided to
>> risk
>>>>>> serious
>>>>>> injury or death, acting as a terrorist. He didn't even stop after the
>>>>>> first few rounds.
>>>>>> He chose to die rather than submit. He appropriately suffered the
>>>>>> consequences.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 9/9/2014 1:35 PM, LRS Scout wrote:
>>>>>>> He didn't have a gun
>>>>>>> On Sep 9, 2014 1:34 PM, "Rick Faircloth" <[email protected]>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> It used to be that men settled their differences with fists. But the
>>>>>>>> culture changed
>>>>>>>> and offenders begin with guns, hence the cops had to respond in
>> kind.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 9/9/2014 1:29 PM, LRS Scout wrote:
>>>>>>>>> I have. Only I didn't stand by idly, I used appropriate force
>> levels.
>>>>>>>>> It's called escalation of force principals.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> You were in the military man, it would be a violation of ROE that
>>>> would
>>>>>>>>> have ended with me in Leavenworth.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Cops are supposed to be tough guys, brawling is supposed to be part
>>>> of
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> job.  All go straight to the gun now.
>>>>>>>>> On Sep 9, 2014 1:14 PM, "Rick Faircloth" <[email protected]
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Some kids, who are not holding firearms, should not be considered
>>>>>>>>>> "unarmed".
>>>>>>>>>> And, if you're referring to the 18-year-old, 290-lb, Ferguson thug
>>>>>>>>>> named, Michael,
>>>>>>>>>> then he is in no way, a "kid"...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> If you are assaulted by someone who is a threat to kill or
>> seriously
>>>>>>>>>> injure you
>>>>>>>>>> by continuing their assault, then you have every right to kill the
>>>>>>>>>> aggressor.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> No one, and I mean NO ONE on this list would stand by with a gun
>> in
>>>>>>>>>> their hand,
>>>>>>>>>> and watch their spouse or child being beaten by an aggressor who
>>>> they
>>>>>>>>>> couldn't
>>>>>>>>>> handle physically, and refuse to shoot the aggressor and allow
>> their
>>>>>>>>>> spouse or
>>>>>>>>>> child to possibly be killed and state that they couldn't intervene
>>>> by
>>>>>>>>>> shooting
>>>>>>>>>> the aggressor because he didn't have a firearm. You don't have to
>>>>>> have a
>>>>>>>>>> gun
>>>>>>>>>> to kill someone.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> How many on this list would stand by and watch a loved one be
>> killed
>>>>>> by
>>>>>>>> an
>>>>>>>>>> assailant who doesn't possess a firearm and was only beating them
>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>> their
>>>>>>>>>> bare hands?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Would you, Scout?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 9/9/2014 1:05 PM, LRS Scout wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> This is why we shoot unarmed kids.....
>>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 9, 2014 1:04 PM, "Rick Faircloth" <
>> [email protected]
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> The women in your life, if you have any, would consider
>> themselves
>>>>>>>>>>>> fortunate
>>>>>>>>>>>> to be treated the way I treat the women in my life, you asshole.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> If you have a woman in your life, would you advise her to start
>>>>>>>>>> punching,
>>>>>>>>>>>> spitting on, kicking, and slapping a male companion if she
>> didn't
>>>>>> like
>>>>>>>>>>>> something
>>>>>>>>>>>> he said or did? If not, why not, you asshole.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/9/2014 12:59 PM, Scott Stroz wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> No, she was not.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nothing she did warranted being punched in the face.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you disagree, I feel sorry for any women in your life.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 12:55 PM, Rick Faircloth <
>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No, asshole, it reeks of "she was asking for trouble."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Was she not asking for trouble, asshole? (Your word, Scott)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/9/2014 12:53 PM, Scott Stroz wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> More proof you are an asshole.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This reeks of 'she had it coming to her'.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 10:38 AM, Rick Faircloth <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Women want equality. They don't want to be treated as
>>>> "weaker."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> These are the consequences of feminism.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You can't have it both ways.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/9/2014 10:33 AM, GMoney wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What is with all these false equivalencies????
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> All these arguments of "Well, IF she was a man..." are
>>>>>> completely
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> irrelevant.  She's NOT a man.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ANd i know we want to treat anything and everything and
>>>>>> everyone
>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> equals,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but folks, there is simple nature at work here....and human
>>>>>>>> males,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> generally, are larger and stronger than females. I have no
>>>>>>>> problem
>>>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> our
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> laws and our general sense of moral decency reflecting
>> that.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If a woman half your size attacks you with a slap...you do
>>>> NOT
>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> moral right to land a left hook that looked like something
>>>> out
>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tyson's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> PUnch Out.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If that double standard bothers you......deal with it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 8:48 AM, Vivec <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Today the wife apologised for her role in the incident.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If the wife was an athlete, and stronger than Rice, and
>> the
>>>>>> same
>>>>>>>>>>>> thing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> had
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> happened
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I just don't think that anyone would be blaming her 100%
>> for
>>>>>>>> what
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> happened.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There is a total skew when it comes to situations
>> involving
>>>>>>>>>> violence
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> between a man and a woman.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I also did not see two punches. I saw a single slap when
>> she
>>>>>>>>>> charged
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> him
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with fists flying.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This was not a passive abusive scenario. It also was not a
>>>>>>>>>> scenario
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> where
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the wife was fighting back to protect herself, she was the
>>>>>>>>>>>> aggressor.
>>
> 

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