Here you go indeed We aren't talking about designated smoking area that non- smokers can readily avoid. Yes, you're right, the supervisor *chose* to come talk with you there. We're talking about people who do *not* chose to share your smoke but might be forced to.
And we are talking about *direct* health effects, not indirect or financial. Breathing smoke directly affects my health. -Ben > (here we go) > > >>that they're causing my > >>headaches or other ailments because I'm breathing what they claim is > >>their right. > > Let's see, when I take a smoke at work, I walk outside, about 30 yards to a > designated smoking area. The only others around are other smokers. How are > you affected? > > Funny that you mention this. Yesterday, I and two other smokers were out at > the smoking area. Our supervisor happened to walk out there to talk to us. > She is a non-smoker. She could have waited 5 minutes, and talked to us in > the office. She chose to join us. Were we forcing her to smoke? > > OK, your SUV uses too much gas, you can't have it. Your guns (or those of > other gun owners) are used in to many crimes, you can't have them. Your > fast food is making you fat and I have to pay for your heath care, no more > for you. > > Your sedentary life style is causing health problems, you are required to be > in front of my house at 4:30 for mandatory exercise. You better be there. > > No, you can't think that way, it bothers me. Think the way I tell you. > > You will be assimilated. Resistance is futile. > > > Matt > > > >>-----Original Message----- > >>From: Ben Arledge [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > >>Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 2:25 PM > >>To: CF-Community > >>Subject: RE: Smokers (was: Man uses fast food chains because he's fat) > >> > >>I have to agree with Ben here. There sure are a lot of Ben's here. :) > >> > >>Most smokers just don't seem to understand that they're causing my > >>headaches or other ailments because I'm breathing what they claim is > >>their right. > >> > >>I personally regard most smokers in the same group as potheads because > >>it's stupid and makes no sense. I would avoid hiring a smoker, and I'm > >>seeing more and more companies thinking the same way. Smoking in any > >>restaurants here is prohibited now. Yes! > >> > >>Here in Canada (read in a study a couple years ago) it's actually > >>cheaper for the government if citizens smoke and die early from > >>cancer/etc. than live longer and use health care resources for age > >>related ailments. With that in mind, I'm more accepting that people > >>smoke but if someone wants to smoke around me, prepare to have your > >>personal space violated. > >> > >>And I think Tim Heald has it backwards. If he wants to smoke, he should > >>stay home and away from the rest of us. > >> > >>Also, I don't understand how smokers can defend something they clearly > >>know is unhealthy, harms others (even if unintentional), waste of money, > >>etc. I mean come on, get a grip! > >> > >>Anybody else feel the same way? Or disagree? :) > >> > >>Cheers, > >>Ben > >> > >> > >>-----Original Message----- > >>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > >>Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 11:43 AM > >>To: CF-Community > >>Subject: RE: Man uses fast food chains because he's fat > >> > >>Tim- > >> > >>you say "I am a smoker ... It's my body..." > >> > >>If you can equate your right to smoke with your right to > >>eat Big Macs, you're forgetting an important point: > >> > >>When you smoke near other people, the side-stream > >>(second-hand) smoke is being forced on them. > >> > >>When you eat, it directly affects only you. > >> > >>are you taking responsibility for the effect your > >>personal decision to smoke has on them? > >> > >>I am an asthmatic. If you exercise your personal rights > >>and smoke around me, what about *my* right to breathe? > >> > >>-Ben > >> > >> > >>> I would have to say that maybe it's not all that different than > >>smoking. > >>> > >>> 1. Everyone knows both products are bad for them. > >>> > >>> 2. The people who whine about each the most are either hypocrites > >>(still > >>> using the product) or they are former users. > >>> > >>> I think suing the cigarette manufacturers (especially if you win) is > >>just as > >>> stupid as this. > >>> > >>> I am a smoker. I know it causes cancer and all sorts of other > >>problems. > >>> It's my body and I know I am personally responsible for my actions > >>where > >>> smoking (or a big mac) are concerned. How is it that the nation that > >>was > >>> founded on the idea that personal rights and responsibilities far out > >>way > >>> those of the community, has fallen to such a low. > >>> > >>> Bah, makes me sick sometimes just thinking about it. Oh well "Who is > >>John > >>> Gault?". > >>> > >>> Anyone feel like helping me start a community of people of ability > >>somewhere > >>> in the woods. We'll run a couple of T-3s out there and call it a day. > >>> > >>> What was it called? Galt's Gulch? > >>> > >>> Tim Heald > >>> Developer > >>> Schoollink, Inc. > >>> 910.223.2116 x 122 > >>> > >>> > -----Original Message----- > >>> > From: Bill Wheatley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > >>> > Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 1:24 PM > >>> > To: CF-Community > >>> > Subject: Re: Man uses fast food chains because he's fat > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > ahh not this again!! :) Maybe we'll get lucky and the greedy SOB > >>> > will have a > >>> > blocked artery and then he can sue them for his stroke too. > >>> > > >>> > WaAAAA I'm fat cause I am addicted to big macs. Get off it dude. > >>This is > >>> > completely different then smoking, you have to draw the line of > >>personal > >>> > responsibility somewhere. Just like these morons that spill burning > >>hot > >>> > coffee on their crotch. AHH how did that happen?? > >>> > > >>> > Oh was it the fact you had it between your legs duh moron!. I'm glad > >>you > >>> > cant reproduce because you obviously come from a defect genetic line > >>lol. > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > Bill Wheatley > >>> > Senior Database Developer > >>> > Macromedia Certified Advanced Coldfusion Developer > >>> > EDIETS.COM > >>> > 954.360.9022 X159 > >>> > ICQ 417645 > >>> > ----- Original Message ----- > >>> > From: "Howie Hamlin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>> > To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>> > Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 11:57 AM > >>> > Subject: Man uses fast food chains because he's fat > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,58652,00.html/ > >>> > > > >>> > > NEW YORK - Want a class-action lawsuit with that burger? > >>> > > > >>> > > A New York City lawyer has filed suit against the four big > >>fast-food > >>> > corporations, saying their fatty foods are > >>> > > responsible for his client's obesity and related health problems. > >>> > > > >>> > > Samuel Hirsch filed his lawsuit Wednesday at a New York state > >>> > court in the > >>> > Bronx, alleging that McDonald's, Burger King, > >>> > > Wendy's and KFC Corporation are irresponsible and deceptive in > >>> > the posting > >>> > of their nutritional information, that they > >>> > > need to offer healthier options on their menus, and that they > >>> > create a de > >>> > facto addiction in their consumers, > >>> > > particularly the poor and children. > >>> > > > >>> > > "You don't need nicotine or an illegal drug to create an > >>> > addiction, you're > >>> > creating a craving," Hirsch said. "I think > >>> > > we'll find that the fast-food industry has not been totally up > >>> > front with > >>> > the consumers." > >>> > > The suit does not specify the amount of damages Hirsch and his > >>> > client are > >>> > seeking. > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > >>> > >> > >> > ______________________________________________________________________ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
