Its very hard to quit smoking. Cessation rates are about the same as heroin addiction. so cut them a bit of a break eh? Eventually most may quit, but it takes a lot of effort, and given that the short terms rewards are far more salient than the long term costs, quitting is quite difficult.
larry >Sure i do, but i'm not gonna let a bunch of boneheads who were stupid and >tried it in the first place >kill me by doing it. If you want to smoke in a bubble or in a sealed house >where it cant get out great. > >Until then quit whining about how hard it is to quit and smokers rights and >the rest of the crap. >And as the son of a family of smokers i think i know how it goes :). >And i didnt say they should all die i said they should all keel over :P they >could keel over from a bad lunch you just took it that way. > >Nobody said group x should die unless it was someone else and i missed it. > >Whiny ass smokers its so hard to quit, well did someone hold you down and >make you try it. >Yes i got pressured to try it too i'm sorry if you're not as strong willed >as others. You made your bed you lay in it. >I would be happy if they got rid of cigarettes and just made it an injection >you know sorta like herion. That way you pollute your own body 100% with the >crap in it instead of polluting us > > > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Judith Dinowitz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2003 11:21 AM >Subject: Re: SUV break? > > >> As a gymnastics and karate mom, I take offense at the demonization of >soccer moms. (Even if I don't have an SUV.) >> >> As the daughter-in-law of a smoker who is desperately trying to stop and >has now been smoke free for about a week, I take offense at the idea that >all smokers should die. Non-smokers have no idea how difficult it is for >smokers to stop, how strong that addiction can be. I've been finding out -- >I drive my mother-in-law to her Smoker's Cessation meetings. >> >> (Now, can we argue without name-calling and without saying that "Group X >should die"?) >> >> Judith >> >> >> > I do not like the way you demonize those who may disagree with you on >> > the environment. Its the same as if I called you a greedy, uncaring >> > arrogant environment raping psychopath. In other words, your >> > characterization of those who engage in pro-social and >> > pro-environmental behaviors is completely inappropriate. >> > >> > I didn't demonize anyone. I simply made a counter generalization to the >generalization that all SUV owners were either yuppie business people or >soccer moms, which is not the case. Just as my generalization, that all >hybrid owners, are environmentalists, is not the case. However, I see it is >ok for you to take anyone who uses an SUV for what you consider to be not an >intended use and impose on them your will by raising their taxes and telling >them they are destroying the environment. I am assuming you are referring >to my calling environmentalists "wackos", when referring to demonizing them. >Tell me Larry how would you charachterize someone who, throws acid on SUVs, >violates people personal property by sticking bumper stickers on SUV that >state, "i'm changing the climte", members of the ELF that burn down homes >because they don't agree with where they are being built. Those types of >behavior to me deserve the classification wacko, and I realize that not >everyone who considers themselves and environmentalist acts this way. >Whether I agree or disagree with someones view point has no bearing on >whether or not I consider someone wacko. There are many people with on the >far right that I consider wackos too. >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > larry >> > >> > you're more of an extremist that I thought. The person who organized >> > the anti-SUV campaign is Ariana Huffington, not exactly a left wing >> > type. Lets be honest about it SUV's pollute more and use more gas >> > than a car. Its something that cannot continue forever. >> > >> > Personally I would rather see a stiff luxury tax placed on SUV's for > > > all those who do not use them for their original intended use - as a >> > work vehicle. >> > >> > larry >> > >> > >> > I think Nick covered this well. What is intended use and who determines >intended use? I use my SUV to tow a camper and a boat, I also use it get >groceries and I even strap the family Christmas tree on top sometime in >November. Occasionally I use it to go off road in Michigan when I go home. >I use it in the winter to get around in the snow. So what is the intended >use of my SUV then? >> > >> >> >> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=5 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=5 Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5
