I wont cut them a break ;) Its not like you dont hear all about smoking and drugs when you're growing up, SURE some people dont get to know all about how bad it is for one reason another, moms a crack head who knows.
But I dont feel sorry for them you did it to yourself and thats thats. I just think an injectable 'cigarette' is fine. I dont care what you do as long as it doesnt kill me and my kids. I dont care if you use herion injected in your needle as long as you stay home and dont drive. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry C. Lyons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2003 11:48 AM Subject: Re: SUV break? > Its very hard to quit smoking. Cessation rates are about the same as > heroin addiction. so cut them a bit of a break eh? Eventually most > may quit, but it takes a lot of effort, and given that the short > terms rewards are far more salient than the long term costs, quitting > is quite difficult. > > larry > > >Sure i do, but i'm not gonna let a bunch of boneheads who were stupid and > >tried it in the first place > >kill me by doing it. If you want to smoke in a bubble or in a sealed house > >where it cant get out great. > > > >Until then quit whining about how hard it is to quit and smokers rights and > >the rest of the crap. > >And as the son of a family of smokers i think i know how it goes :). > >And i didnt say they should all die i said they should all keel over :P they > >could keel over from a bad lunch you just took it that way. > > > >Nobody said group x should die unless it was someone else and i missed it. > > > >Whiny ass smokers its so hard to quit, well did someone hold you down and > >make you try it. > >Yes i got pressured to try it too i'm sorry if you're not as strong willed > >as others. You made your bed you lay in it. > >I would be happy if they got rid of cigarettes and just made it an injection > >you know sorta like herion. That way you pollute your own body 100% with the > >crap in it instead of polluting us > > > > > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Judith Dinowitz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2003 11:21 AM > >Subject: Re: SUV break? > > > > > >> As a gymnastics and karate mom, I take offense at the demonization of > >soccer moms. (Even if I don't have an SUV.) > >> > >> As the daughter-in-law of a smoker who is desperately trying to stop and > >has now been smoke free for about a week, I take offense at the idea that > >all smokers should die. Non-smokers have no idea how difficult it is for > >smokers to stop, how strong that addiction can be. I've been finding out -- > >I drive my mother-in-law to her Smoker's Cessation meetings. > >> > >> (Now, can we argue without name-calling and without saying that "Group X > >should die"?) > >> > >> Judith > >> > >> > >> > I do not like the way you demonize those who may disagree with you on > >> > the environment. Its the same as if I called you a greedy, uncaring > >> > arrogant environment raping psychopath. In other words, your > >> > characterization of those who engage in pro-social and > >> > pro-environmental behaviors is completely inappropriate. > >> > > >> > I didn't demonize anyone. I simply made a counter generalization to the > >generalization that all SUV owners were either yuppie business people or > >soccer moms, which is not the case. Just as my generalization, that all > >hybrid owners, are environmentalists, is not the case. However, I see it is > >ok for you to take anyone who uses an SUV for what you consider to be not an > >intended use and impose on them your will by raising their taxes and telling > >them they are destroying the environment. I am assuming you are referring > >to my calling environmentalists "wackos", when referring to demonizing them. > >Tell me Larry how would you charachterize someone who, throws acid on SUV s, > >violates people personal property by sticking bumper stickers on SUV that > >state, "i'm changing the climte", members of the ELF that burn down homes > >because they don't agree with where they are being built. Those types of > >behavior to me deserve the classification wacko, and I realize that not > >everyone who considers themselves and environmentalist acts this way. > >Whether I agree or disagree with someones view point has no bearing on > >whether or not I consider someone wacko. There are many people with on the > >far right that I consider wackos too. > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > larry > >> > > >> > you're more of an extremist that I thought. The person who organized > >> > the anti-SUV campaign is Ariana Huffington, not exactly a left wing > >> > type. Lets be honest about it SUV's pollute more and use more gas > >> > than a car. Its something that cannot continue forever. > >> > > >> > Personally I would rather see a stiff luxury tax placed on SUV's for > > > > all those who do not use them for their original intended use - as a > >> > work vehicle. > >> > > >> > larry > >> > > >> > > >> > I think Nick covered this well. What is intended use and who determines > >intended use? I use my SUV to tow a camper and a boat, I also use it get > >groceries and I even strap the family Christmas tree on top sometime in > >November. Occasionally I use it to go off road in Michigan when I go home. > >I use it in the winter to get around in the snow. So what is the intended > >use of my SUV then? > >> > > >> > >> > >> > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=5 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=5 Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5
