Thanks for the compliment, Tim. We may not agree on issues, but I respect you.
I can be stubborn, too. And like a lot of supposedly smart people, people sometimes think I sound like I'm talking down to them. They don't like it (particularly wife), even if I apologize & say not intended. He was 22 in Nov. Yes, he knows we have been good for him - in terms of support. But that doesn't mean he has to like me. And whether I like him or not, I'm still his parent, and believe I have certain obligations as such. When he was 9 he sassed one time too many and too much, and I hit him, knocked him down. I don't think that was right, but it happened. He was always challenging the discipline. Also was going to Mom to try to undermine Dad. When I was 10 or 11, my Dad smacked me, under almost identical circumstances. I don't think it was "right", but as I got older I realized that I really provoked it. Life has too many circles... -Ben At 02:14 PM 2/21/03 -0500, you wrote: >I don't know, how old is he? That just sounds F'd up. Maybe let him fall on >his face and then he can see how good for him you really were. > >While we haven't met, I do feel as though we all get to know each other >reasonably well in here. You seem like a really great guy. Scares the hell >out of me. My three year old already tells me he hates me when I discipline >him. > >Tim > >-----Original Message----- >From: Ben Braver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >Sent: Friday, February 21, 2003 2:04 PM >To: CF-Community >Subject: RE: Seeking a little sympathy > > >At 01:58 PM 2/21/03 -0500, you wrote: >>That's what I meant :) >> >>That for all the trials and tribulations my father and I endured earlier in >>life, we are now great friends. > >That's what I thought was happening, until last summer. >We were going to lunch & movies, watching tv, bs-ing. >Then on vacation in Kaua'i he told me he'd hated me since he was 9. > >-Ben > >> >>Tim >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >>Sent: Friday, February 21, 2003 1:56 PM >>To: CF-Community >>Subject: Re: Seeking a little sympathy >> >> >>Or it might work out to where you have a great relationship with your dad >>like i did with mine. >>It just depends what life stores in the cards for us >> >> >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>Sent: Friday, February 21, 2003 1:52 PM >>Subject: RE: Seeking a little sympathy >> >> >>Ben, >>A little encouragement. My father and I couldn't stand each other >>for years. I have to admit my own part fully, I was wild and liked to >>party. I was emancipated at 16 and we didn't speak for a couple of years. >>I think his letting me fall flat on my face, and all the struggles that we >>had in our relationship, only served to make me a better person, and to >>cement the relationship that my father and I now enjoy. >> >>I only hope that I have the strength that men like you and my dad >>show now that I have my own sons. >> >>Tim >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Ben Braver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >>Sent: Friday, February 21, 2003 12:06 PM >>To: CF-Community >>Subject: Seeking a little sympathy >> >> >>hi gang, >> >>Another real bummer with the 22-year-old son. >> >>He's been working as a banquet cook and fills in at the pantry station in >>the line restaurant sometimes. >>It's a "boutique hotel" with a huge, deluxe fitness club attached. >>The restaurant serves the hotel, the club, and hopefully the general >public. >>But the sales and marketing person (who just got fired) did a lousy job of >>publicizing it to the community. >>Between that and the economy, business has been lousy. >>Most of the restaurant staff have had their hours cut. >>Yesterday, my son found out he's being laid off (via a voice mail message). >> >>So, it's gone from bad (no roommate and not enough hours to make ends >>meet), to worse (no job). >>This is the third horse he's had shot out from under him since getting out >>of the cooking school. >> >>He's pretty bummed out. >>So am I - his moving home would create a virtual (or real) war zone. >>And subsidizing him until he gets up to speed on a new job (or jobs) and a >>roommate would be hard financially, especially when we're finally getting a >>handle on the budjet. >><heavy sigh> >> >>My wife went over to "just be there" last night. >>(He only wanted "Mom" there.) >>She suggested he get real and go for a job at Starbucks or something just >>to make rent. >> >>Yes, I know the economy is rough right now. >>But I cringe at the idea of financing an education at the California >>Culinary Academy for him to end up at Starbucks. >> >>I think the problem may be that he doesn't have fast enough knife and >>"production" skills to keep up with the chefs' expectations - he loves food >>and cooking, but isn't the most coordinated person. (You should see his >>handwriting!) And he doesn't have the "fire" (drive) and confidence to >>charge into the typical line kitchen and take it by storm. (Pardon the >>mixed metaphors.) >> >>Yeah, I'm sure it will work out for him and us. >>Just feeling a little bummed and looking for some kind words from a bunch >>of great people. >> >>Have a nice weekend, everyone. >> >>-Ben >> >> >> >> >> > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=5 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=5 Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5
