yea i know but i meant me and my dad have always been friends we never went
through the angry phase ;)



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Sent: Friday, February 21, 2003 1:58 PM
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That's what I meant :)

That for all the trials and tribulations my father and I endured earlier in
life, we are now great friends.

Tim

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Sent: Friday, February 21, 2003 1:56 PM
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Or it might work out to where you have a great relationship with your dad
like i did with mine.
It just depends what life stores in the cards for us


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Sent: Friday, February 21, 2003 1:52 PM
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Ben,
A little encouragement.  My father and I couldn't stand each other
for years.  I have to admit my own part fully, I was wild and liked to
party.  I was emancipated at 16 and we didn't speak for a couple of years.
I think his letting me fall flat on my face, and all the struggles that we
had in our relationship, only served to make me a better person, and to
cement the relationship that my father and I now enjoy.

I only hope that I have the strength that men like you and my dad
show now that I have my own sons.

Tim

-----Original Message-----
From: Ben Braver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, February 21, 2003 12:06 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Seeking a little sympathy


hi gang,

Another real bummer with the 22-year-old son.

He's been working as a banquet cook and fills in at the pantry station in
the line restaurant sometimes.
It's a "boutique hotel" with a huge, deluxe fitness club attached.
The restaurant serves the hotel, the club, and hopefully the general public.
But the sales and marketing person (who just got fired) did a lousy job of
publicizing it to the community.
Between that and the economy, business has been lousy.
Most of the restaurant staff have had their hours cut.
Yesterday, my son found out he's being laid off (via a voice mail message).

So, it's gone from bad (no roommate and not enough hours to make ends
meet), to worse (no job).
This is the third horse he's had shot out from under him since getting out
of the cooking school.

He's pretty bummed out.
So am I - his moving home would create a virtual (or real) war zone.
And subsidizing him until he gets up to speed on a new job (or jobs) and a
roommate would be hard financially, especially when we're finally getting a
handle on the budjet.
<heavy sigh>

My wife went over to "just be there" last night.
(He only wanted "Mom" there.)
She suggested he get real and go for a job at Starbucks or something just
to make rent.

Yes, I know the economy is rough right now.
But I cringe at the idea of financing an education at the California
Culinary Academy for him to end up at Starbucks.

I think the problem may be that he doesn't have fast enough knife and
"production" skills to keep up with the chefs' expectations - he loves food
and cooking, but isn't the most coordinated person. (You should see his
handwriting!) And he doesn't have the "fire" (drive) and confidence to
charge into the typical line kitchen and take it by storm. (Pardon the
mixed metaphors.)

Yeah, I'm sure it will work out for him and us.
Just feeling a little bummed and looking for some kind words from a bunch
of great people.

Have a nice weekend, everyone.

-Ben





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