At 03:12 PM 4/4/03, Tim wrote:
>The undercover cops stem more from militant anarchists, socialists and
>environmentalists that are using the war and the protests to further their
>agendas. The whole anti-globalist movement, we really do have problems with
>it here.  Remember WTO?

I will tell you, as someone who has been active in the peace movement in US 
for over 30 years, that none of the true peace organizations advocate 
violence.  If you would sign on to some of the planning lists for the 
marches, you would see for yourself that the instructions to the marchers 
are always about non-violent protest.

But as with any movement, the fringe groups will latch on and pursue their 
own agenda, often to the total distress of those of us who are trying to 
get the message out of peace.

I don't worry as much about the undercover cops as I do with the plants put 
at the rallies specifically to cause violence or damage and make the peace 
activists look bad to the general public.  Nixon and his dirty tricksters 
did this to great effect during the Vietnam protests.  I wouldn't be one 
bit surprised if the person who did the much publicized 'spitting on the 
returning troops' was a plant, because no one I know of who truly believes 
in peace would behave that way.

The anti-globalization and environmental movements have some elements that 
are more likely to cause problems, but even those are vastly in the 
minority, and the planners wish they would go away.  One broken store 
window at a march costs us more good-will than a million peaceful 
protesters can engender.

An oft used motto in the peace movement is this:  Fighting for peace is 
like screwing for virginity.  And that includes violence at the peace 
marches and rallies.








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