The undercover cops stem more from militant anarchists, socialists and
environmentalists that are using the war and the protests to further their
agendas. The whole anti-globalist movement, we really do have problems with
it here.  Remember WTO?

Timothy Heald 
Overseas Security Advisory Council 
U.S. Department of State 

"that the free Constitution, which is the work of your hands, may be
sacredly maintained" - George Washington, Farewell Address 1796



-----Original Message-----
From: Dana Tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, April 04, 2003 3:04 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: Liberate Iraq -- Even With Unclean Hands


Jim, I am agreeing with you :) Kinda. It worries me, for example, the
undercover police among peaceful protesters is considered business as
usual. It worries me that network television is playing feel-good clips of
stirring music and the the American flag before the news, under the guise
of "supporting our troops." That particular phrase bothers me a lot. I
support the troops, but I question this war; when did that become somehow
incompatible? I see public discourse becoming more and more Orwellian and
it is happening *here* where there actually safeguards against that kinda
thing. Do I think this scenario will come to pass? I.. hope not. Is it
possible? I am afraid so. I am betting on the strengths of America, but
that doesn't mean that I don't see any dangers to the current situation...

 

Jim Davis writes:

> > That seems to be about the public attitude these days. I 
> > wonder if this country will elect someone soon who promises 
> > to do away with all the messy constitutional stuff that 
> > terrorists are using against us....
> 
> That's kind of the point tho:
> 
> The constitution protects these rights against this very kind of short
> term hysteria.  History is littered examples of a panicked populus
> making a snap judgement and then, years later, wondering "how'd we ever
> get here?!"
> 
> For the uber-geeks imagine how pain could have been averted if Jar-Jar
> was unable to give supreme executive force to Palpatine through a simple
> proposition.  ;^)
> 
> Today the government is doing it's best to cover-its-ass and the media
> is doing there best to scare the crap out of us.  All of this gives the
> people an unreasonable sense of fear and danger.  The safegaurds placed
> in the constitution (and the constitutional ammendment process) are
> there to prevent this kind of temporary situation from threatening the
> fundamental ideals this country was based on.
> 
> Despite some bumps (McCarthyism, WWII Interment camps and others) they
> have done a fine job so far.
> 
> Jim Davis
> 
> 
> 

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