ummm maybe. I just have trouble relating this to small protests by UNM
students on UNM grounds....

[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

> The undercover cops stem more from militant anarchists, socialists and
> environmentalists that are using the war and the protests to further their
> agendas. The whole anti-globalist movement, we really do have problems with
> it here.  Remember WTO?
> 
> Timothy Heald 
> Overseas Security Advisory Council 
> U.S. Department of State 
> 
> "that the free Constitution, which is the work of your hands, may be
> sacredly maintained" - George Washington, Farewell Address 1796
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dana Tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, April 04, 2003 3:04 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: Liberate Iraq -- Even With Unclean Hands
> 
> 
> Jim, I am agreeing with you :) Kinda. It worries me, for example, the
> undercover police among peaceful protesters is considered business as
> usual. It worries me that network television is playing feel-good clips of
> stirring music and the the American flag before the news, under the guise
> of "supporting our troops." That particular phrase bothers me a lot. I
> support the troops, but I question this war; when did that become somehow
> incompatible? I see public discourse becoming more and more Orwellian and
> it is happening *here* where there actually safeguards against that kinda
> thing. Do I think this scenario will come to pass? I.. hope not. Is it
> possible? I am afraid so. I am betting on the strengths of America, but
> that doesn't mean that I don't see any dangers to the current situation...
> 
>  
> 
> Jim Davis writes:
> 
> > > That seems to be about the public attitude these days. I 
> > > wonder if this country will elect someone soon who promises 
> > > to do away with all the messy constitutional stuff that 
> > > terrorists are using against us....
> > 
> > That's kind of the point tho:
> > 
> > The constitution protects these rights against this very kind of short
> > term hysteria.  History is littered examples of a panicked populus
> > making a snap judgement and then, years later, wondering "how'd we ever
> > get here?!"
> > 
> > For the uber-geeks imagine how pain could have been averted if Jar-Jar
> > was unable to give supreme executive force to Palpatine through a simple
> > proposition.  ;^)
> > 
> > Today the government is doing it's best to cover-its-ass and the media
> > is doing there best to scare the crap out of us.  All of this gives the
> > people an unreasonable sense of fear and danger.  The safegaurds placed
> > in the constitution (and the constitutional ammendment process) are
> > there to prevent this kind of temporary situation from threatening the
> > fundamental ideals this country was based on.
> > 
> > Despite some bumps (McCarthyism, WWII Interment camps and others) they
> > have done a fine job so far.
> > 
> > Jim Davis
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
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