well said >Well we're not talking about whether or not it affects your land, we're >only talking about whether the government should or should not govern a >private business. By your logic, you're saying that it's more important >to keep the air around your private business fresh and clean rather than >the air that is invading someone's lungs. I don't consider the air to >be an "owned" (by private business, that is) commodity as you're >suggesting. When your smoke crosses into my breathing space, it's >become your responsibility to rectify the situation. And that's the >crux of the problem - people doing things that affect other people >without regard. > >I think we should remove the way of thinking "We're telling a business >what they can and cannot do" to "We're telling people that they can't >affect other people without their permission". The business doesn't >smoke, people do, and therefore the law only is affecting people, not >businesses. > > >Matthew Small >IT Director >Showstopper American Dance Championships >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >843-357-1847 > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Heald, Tim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2003 3:51 PM >To: CF-Community >Subject: RE: woo hoo > >A nuclear waste site yes, the other two no. A pig farm, or a land fill >does not stay within the boundaries of the land it occupies. In essence >it >crosses into your land, in the air and water. If you smoke in a >restaurant, >your smoke doesn't leave your business and get the people next door, it >dissipates before that can happen. > >Timothy Heald >Information Systems Specialist >Overseas Security Advisory Council >U.S. Department of State >571.345.2235 > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Matthew Small [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2003 2:29 PM >To: CF-Community >Subject: RE: woo hoo > > >I was just wondering, Tim - > >I don't know where you live in the DC area, but do you think it would be >right for somebody to buy land right next to your house and set up a pig >farm, or a nuclear waste dumping site, or a landfill? According to your >logic, it would be. We have zoning restrictions because otherwise, >companies do just that sort of thing - and you know that's right, >because NC has a big problem with pig farms going up in places they >aren't wanted. > >Matthew Small >IT Director >Showstopper American Dance Championships >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >843-357-1847 > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Dana Tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2003 2:16 PM >To: CF-Community >Subject: Re: woo hoo > >Tim, I missed the original post to this. But Ben has asthma right? So do >I, >but I think there are enough arguments to be made against public smoking > >besides this. And I will get there is a sec. But watch now, I am in a >restaurant eating. The guy next to me lights up. Man. Now, my asthma is >triggered by having a cold so if I haven't had one recently I may jsut >be >highly uncomfortable for the rest of my meal. If I have though, this guy > >lighting up will set off a coughing fit, which I cannot stop. On more >than >one occasion the smoker is this scenario has given me a dirty look and >asked me do you mind. So. That's the personal issue. > >However. The differnce between this and your scenario is that you have >asked to be served the alcohol. I on the other hand have merely failed >to >notice that I am sitting next to the smoking section. > >Dana > > >> >> Ben, I likeyou man, but I have a major issue with your thinking that >you >> should be able to tell others what to do based on your illness. I am >an >> alcoholic, I know I can't drink. If I do I distroy my life. Yet I >don't >> think that they should be able to serve alchol in resturants or bars >to >> protect me. I just don't put myself in those situations anymore. My >> problem not yours. See what I mean? > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=5 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=5
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