I can say that Mike is a great father. Also, I wasn't ready to be a father when Chrissie got pregnant the first time, but I even had it easier than Mike did. I was in the Army, we were married and she was 25, and I 26. We had already tasted responsibility.
I might not always like his politics but seriously have nothing but respect for him as a man. Timothy Heald Information Systems Specialist Overseas Security Advisory Council U.S. Department of State 571.345.2235 -----Original Message----- From: Kevin Schmidt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 4:12 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Yet another scumbag parent.... I love it so when one recognizes my higher than average IQ, it always makes me feel warm and fuzzy. Perhaps I was a bit harsh. I was meaning to refer to society as a whole when it comes to responsibiliy. However, it did seem as though you mentioned you weren't ready to be a parent. All I said was that you like everyone else have to assume responsibility for your actions, in which case you did. My beef is with those who want others to coddle them when they make mistakes and expect me to pay for those mistakes. Now about you using my tax dollars, we all use each others tax dollars every day, now whether I agree with some of those uses is another story. Kevin >Good response, genius! I am probably one of the most responsible people >you will ever speak to, and have had to do a lot more with a lot less >than most people. > >Now, when did your tax dollars ever benefit me? It sounds like you are >saying I was on welfare, are you saying I was on welfare? > >M > >-----Original Message----- >From: Kevin Schmidt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 3:40 PM >To: CF-Community >Subject: Yet another scumbag parent.... > > >Your correct, what form of contraception you use isn't the issue. The >issue is taking responsibility for your actions. The action of having a >child is one that requires responsibility. There is all too often a >tendency for us as a society to shirk our responsibility. However, if >you realized you weren't ready for that responsibility as you stated in >your email, and obviously realized, there was nine months for you to >take care of that. If you weren't ready, than why should I have to >spend my tax dollars to handle your irresponsibility. People need to >realize that there are consequences for their actions, and until we >reach that point, someone is going to try to keep reaching into my >pocket to pay for others irresponsibility and I am going to do my best >to keep their hands out. > >>Finally, and this is the last thing I want to talk to you about, the >>form and frequency of my choice of contraceptive device when I'm >>getting' it on is completely unrelated to the issue at hand. In the >>case of how my daughter was conceived, I cannot think of a reason you >>need to know the details of that event. Kindly get your mind out of my >>pants. >> >>M >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Kevin Schmidt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 2:45 PM >>To: CF-Community >>Subject: Yet another scumbag parent.... >> >> >> I think people having to get a license to be a parent is an >>>interesting approach to cutting the link between violent crime and >>>child abuse. Even if only a percent of a percent of children benefit >>>from such a program, it would be worthwhile. >> >>Once again, let's legislate for the minority. >> >>> >> >>>Also, think about the parents you know. How many of them started off >>>ready to be parents? >> >>So, Mike, you weren't planning on having the kid right? So how would >>of having a license helped? We gonna put everyone on government >>regulated birth control. I am sure the ACLU would love that. Then and >>only then when you have a license you can go off birth control? >> >>In my case, I was a college student who had never >>>had to balance a budget, cook a meal more substantial than ramen >>>noodles, or keep house. Suddenly, I had to feed and clothe a child. >>>That's a big transition. >> >>Growing up fast is hard isn't it. I don't know your situation, but >>would you have had the same problem had you been responsible about >>birth control? With every action, there is a responsibility to be >>taken. In your case, you now have a child that you are responsible >>for. >> >> Learning these things was a lot of trial and >>>error, and has led to some pretty tough situations. Sometimes the >>>experience was overwhelming, and I could see how some people could >just >> >>>lose it and go overboard on their kids. >> >>I had my son at 23, and I have never once come across a situation where > >>I thought I was going to "lose it." >> >> >> A little more knowledge of how >>>to deal with the challenges beforehand might go a long way in the more >>>tragic cases. >> >>Fine, you have nine months before the kid is born, that's nine months >>of knowledge you can garner. >> >> >>And let's face it - 30% of children in America are born >>>out of wedlock, it's not like they are necessarily getting these >>>skills >> >>>at home. >> >>So, it should be the governments role to step in and tell you how to >>live your life and how to raise your kids? Not in my household. >> >>> >>>Other countries have mandantory military programs where you go on >>>active duty for 2 years when you turn 18. This idea, while it may seem > >>>like something that only benefits a few people, actually serves the >>>same end, that the common good can be upheld through vigorous >>>preparation of young adults. >> >>I don't necessarily agree with that. I think responsibility is >>something parents must impart, or you learn the hard way. We don't >>need the government teaching us that. They already fail us in our >>educations, why not let them fail us in teaching responsibility too. >> >> >> >>> >>>M >>> >>>-----Original Message----- >>>From: Heald, Tim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 1:54 PM >>>To: CF-Community >>>Subject: RE: Yet another scumbag parent.... >>> >>> >>>That we put away a higher percentage than most nations is probably >>>true, but I would take exception to it mainly being violent crime. >The >> >>>last time I was paying attention the major reasons for most >>>incarcerations were victimless crimes, usually related to drugs. >>> >>>If we legalized drugs and prostitution than we would no longer have to >>>spend all that money on enforcement and punishment, and we would be >>>able to tax it like we do cigarettes and alcohol. >>> >>>Timothy Heald >>>Information Systems Specialist >>>Overseas Security Advisory Council >>>U.S. Department of State >>>571.345.2235 >>> >> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=5 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=5 Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5
