The unnamed reviewers would be wrong...
These are actual game benchmarks, not PowerPoint slides, and the
HardOCP ones were especially impartial because he discarded the Nvidia
recommended demo.

http://www.hardocp.com/image.html?image=MTA1MjcyOTc2OEZ5RlFJTXBSY2pfMV8zX2wuZ2lm
http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.html?i=1821&p=22

This whole episode smells fishy to me. You don't see Carmack or any
other developer going out of their way to bash one manufacturer. They
are making the product work on both platforms. If indeed, HL2 performs
this badly on Nvidia's cards...it bodes very badly for sales of HL2,
since Nvidia still has the biggest marketshare. I've never heard of a
developer coming out and saying their games performance sucks...which
is what it sounds like Valve is saying to me.

-- 
 jon
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Thursday, September 11, 2003, 1:24:47 PM, you wrote:
AS> Odd.

AS> Reviewers stated that Doom 3 ran better on the ATI graphics cards.

AS> And Nvidia's own DX9 Dawn product demo ran faster on the ATI graphics
AS> cards.

AS> I'll have to look that up again.

AS> This would mean that VALVE is risking sales of their new game, Half Life
AS> 2, which they've spent 5 years developing..
AS> in order to lie and bad talk Nvidia, the dominant graphics chip maker in
AS> the PC gaming market.

AS> ATI must be paying them a LOT of money to say these things and fudge
AS> those results,eh?

AS> -Gel

AS> -----Original Message-----
AS> From: jon hall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

AS> Exactly how did Nvidia get Microsoft to WHQL certify their drivers then?
AS> I've never heard of any of the dx9 features not being implemented in the
AS> FX.

AS> The entire issue, is, and has been the precision differences between the
AS> cards, which is not a part of the dx9 specification.

AS> When Gabe says that it takes him 5x as long to implement the proprietary
AS> Nvidia path...he is full of it. Other developers have already said that
AS> it hasn't taken much extra time to develop for the Nvidia path. Maybe
AS> Gabe is just a crappy developer...but more likely, iD is still pissed at
AS> ATI for leaking the D3 demo, and ATI is feeling the "consequences" iD
AS> mentioned for that. So ATI is throwing their weight behind HL2...

AS> Of course...none of this matters for D3, which is an OpenGL game, which
AS> has already been shown to perform much better on the FX.


AS> 
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