Thursday, September 11, 2003, 4:24:04 PM, you wrote:
AS> Oh.
AS> So now everyone just doesn't like Nvidia.
AS> Including Nvidia themselves who have admitted their first DX9 card was
AS> quite short of the stellar performer they touted it to be?

Obviously...they admitted it themselves.

AS> I think they messed up. Either with the drivers or with the actual
AS> silicone, and its now coming out as more DX9 games come to market.
AS> And if the Source engine performs better under ATI then that's a HUGE
AS> blow for Nvidia, because Source is the only current competitor to the
AS> Doom 3 engine, and several new games are going to based on it. 

Not so sure if the performance of Source matters as much as the
performance of the D3 engine. There are still top of the line Quake3
engine games coming out today, like Call of Duty. iD has a lot of
clout in the engine game...
If I was making the choice between engines to base a game upon, the
performance of the engine across all platforms would be a big factor.
All else being equal...if Source sucks on Nvidia cards, and D3
doesn't. I'm with the D3 engine all the way.

Since the D3 engine performs better on NVidia, but still performs
pretty well on ATI, it's a win for Nvidia if more games are based on the
D3 engine.

AS> I think we will find that Nvidia has messed up, and they will try to
AS> clean up their mess. Their silence on this issue is conspicuous. They
AS> sent out an immediate response when 3DMark 2001 brought them up to task
AS> for obvious and glaring driver optimisations for the 3DMark tests, even
AS> though they were incorrect there too.

AS> I don't think the Browser analogy is a correct one at all. 
AS> Although if people had vociferously complained in the first place with
AS> Microsofts Internet Explorer maybe it would now be standards compliant.

AS> Nvidia does not have the clout of Microsoft to force feed crap down
AS> consumers' throats.

AS> -Angel

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