thanks :) you're cute when you blush :)

Dana 

Doug White writes:

> [Blush]  Been there done that!
> 
> Problem #2 is less obvious, but I would be looking at the system BIOS as the
> source.  Either a BIOS setting, but if the hard drive is "auto-detected" then I
> would probably be looking at replacing the BIOS battery on the motherboard, if
> it is possible to do so.
> 
> Another item is that Dell is pretty good about providing BIOS flash upgrades,
> and you can check their site and see if there is an upgrade available for your
> particular machine.
> 
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> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Dana Tierney" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 5:33 AM
> Subject: Re: wierd Dell (or Adobe??) hardware issue.
> 
> 
> | Doug, you are wonderful. Has anyone told you that yet today? ::hug::
> | I was so stuck on RAM if anything it never occured to me to search on
> | *Adobe's* site for that message, wow. It makes perfect sense though, the
> | operations that caused this were the ones that involved pixel by pixel
> | editing, such as Color Replace, the Eraser, and the Paintbrush.
> | Memory-intensive for sure. And yup, it's the right version.
> |
> | The work around will solve my immediate problem, them I can use this
> | article to explain to Dell what the heck I am talking about.
> |
> | I think we can call that one diagnosed and worked around. And in record
> | time, too.
> |
> | Since you had such sucess with that one, I don't suppose you have a theory
> | on the second issue? (I'll still think you are wonderful if you don't, but
> | I'll have to come up with a new adjective if you do :D )
> |
> | Dana
> |
> | Doug White writes:
> |
> | > >From the Dell knowledgebase:
> | > http://www.adobe.com/support/techdocs/2256a.htm
> | > Adobe application crashes or freezes on Pentium 3 computer (Photoshop
> 6.0-7.x or
> | > Photoshop Album 1.x on Windows)
> | >
> | > Issue
> | > Adobe Photoshop or Adobe Photoshop Album crashes with a blue or black
> screen,
> | > freezes, unexpectedly restarts, or displays a Program Error on a computer
> that
> | > has an Intel Pentium 3 processor.
> | >
> | >
> | > Detail
> | > If the computer manufacturer is Dell Computer Corporation, the system may
> return
> | > the error "Alert: Regulator Error."
> | >
> | >
> | > Solution
> | >
> | > Contact the motherboard or computer manufacturer for assistance resolving
> this
> | > issue, which occurs because of an electrical problem on some motherboards.
> | >
> | >
> | > Note: As a temporary workaround on some computers, you can disable the
> | > extensions that optimize data movement in Photoshop or Photoshop Album.
> | > Performance, however, will slow noticeably.
> | >
> | >
> | > To disable the extensions in Photoshop:
> | > 1. Exit from Photoshop.
> | > 2. In Windows Explorer, move the Extensions folder from the Program
> | > Files/Adobe/Photoshop [version]/Plug-Ins/Adobe Photoshop Only folder to a
> | > location outside of the Adobe folder (for example, move it to the desktop).
> | > 3. Restart Photoshop.
> | >
> | >
> | > To disable the extensions in Photoshop Album:
> | > 1. Exit from Photoshop Album.
> | > 2. In Windows Explorer, move the MMXCore.8BX plug-in from the Program
> | > Files/Adobe/Photoshop Album/Apps/Plugins folder to a location outside of the
> | > Adobe folder (for example, move it to the desktop).
> | > 3. Restart Photoshop Album.
> | >
> | >
> | > Additional Information
> | >
> | > The electrical problem on the affected motherboards is triggered by computer
> | > operations that use the pathway (called a bus) between the processor and the
> RAM
> | > for an excessive number of microseconds. This problem can be triggered by
> the
> | > operating system or other applications; however, it often appears when using
> | > Photoshop or Photoshop Album because few other applications move memory as
> | > rapidly as Photoshop or Photoshop Album does.
> | >
> | >
> | > In Compaq Presario notebook computers, either the electrical problem cited
> above
> | > or an overheated display card may cause the screen to turn black or the
> computer
> | > to restart.
> | >
> | >
> | > The electrical problem also occurs with Dell Optiplex GX1 computers and ASUS
> | > P2B-F and P3B-F motherboards and possibly with other motherboards.
> | >
> | >
> | > Background information
> | >
> | > The electrical problem on the affected motherboards is triggered by computer
> | > operations that use the pathway (called a bus) between the processor and the
> RAM
> | > for an excessive number of microseconds. This problem can be triggered by
> the
> | > operating system or other applications; however, it often appears when using
> | > Photoshop or Photoshop Album because few other applications move memory as
> | > rapidly as Photoshop or process data as intensely as Photoshop Album during
> | > certain operations. For example, when Photoshop Album generates thumbnails
> while
> | > importing files, it uses the MMXCore extension (MMXCore.8bx) extensively.
> | > Because Photoshop Album requires more processor power when using the MMXCore
> | > extension, the usage may trigger an electrical problem on some motherboards.
> | >
> | >
> | > In Compaq Presario notebook computers, either the electrical problem cited
> above
> | > or an overheated display card may cause the screen to turn black or the
> computer
> | > to restart.
> | >
> | >
> | > The electrical problem also occurs with Dell Optiplex GX1 computers and ASUS
> | > P2B-F and P3B-F motherboards and possibly with other motherboards.
> | >
> | >
> | >
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> | > ----- Original Message ----- 
> | > From: "Dana Tierney" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> | > To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> | > Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 2:56 AM
> | > Subject: wierd Dell (or Adobe??) hardware issue.
> | >
> | >
> | > | well, I have cruised the Dell support forms and don't find these problems
> | > | so let me ask you kind folks before I post there as I am impressed with
> the
> | > | ability of the list to find answers to strange questions.
> | > |
> | > | First, its an older Dell. 500 mhz I think, 256 ram, 40g HD. Micron, if
> that
> | > | tells anyone anything.
> | > |
> | > | 1) The symptom: black Dos-like screen that says Alert! Regulator Failure!
> | > |
> | > | Sounds really ugly, I am sure you will agree. It is accompanied by a total
> | > | hardware freeze, no mouse, no keyboard, and in fact I have at times had to
> | > | pull the power cord to get it to reboot. I have narrowed the circumstances
> | > | where this happens to "editing jpegs at high magnification in Photoshop."
> | > | Only. Which I find bizarre... the message makes it sound like the machine
> | > | is overheating, definitely doing something hardware related anyway, I
> | > | thought RAM possibly, but I have had the machine on for days, doing
> massive
> | > | uploads and downloads while playing winamp and surfing the internet,
> | > | sending email and opening and closing huge text files (400 p Word docs)
> and
> | > | nada, I have been known to run out of resouces (often - :P) but never to
> | > | overheat or to get this message.
> | > |
> | > | But let me try to clean up these really badly-scanned drawings, and
> | > | kablooie. I can of course, refrain from using Photoshop. But this doesnt
> | > | get my artwork ready. And dang, is there another package out there that
> | > | does the same stuff? It would have to be free, too, or at least a trial
> | > | version. I am familiar with Gimp but it's not all that intuitive and
> | > | crashes, which is a bad things when you are making changes to big text
> | > | files.
> | > |
> | > |
> | > | 2) On boot, the computer says it can't find any hard drives, press F2 for
> | > | setup and F1 to continue. If you press F1 the machine boots normally.
> | > | Gel was having this issue earlier this year, but as I understand it he
> | > | stopped getting this message when he changed the hard drive cable. I then
> | > | changed mine also, but no joy. It does not seem, as someone suggested
> then,
> | > | to be a failing hard drive.
> | > |
> | > | Despite the massive FTPing I run scandisk and defrag often and there are
> | > | few if any bad sectors. Performance is about what you might expect, ie
> | > | after 6 or 7 hours of simultaneous internet, large Word docs and FTP, I
> | > | start getting messages suggesting that i might like save my work and close
> | > | some windows. Less time if I am listening to internet radio at the same
> | > | time :)
> | > |
> | > | btw, this is w98 se. There are no conflicts in device manager. Lets see,
> | > | virus scan is clean, and these problems occur regardless of the presense
> of
> | > | adware, for which I do also scan regularly.
> | > |
> | > | Thanks for any ideas.
> | > |
> | > | Dana
> | > |
> | >
> | 
> 
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