Well, it was either the Jews or the Romans.  Maybe it was the Chinese, but I'll take my risks.  But the point I was tyring to make was why the words "jew" had to be in there.  it's like saying "Thomas, who is an Arabian man and plays golf and listens to rap and is 6 feet tall, called me today".  Like what the heck does that have anything to do with it.

  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Kevin Graeme
  To: CF-Community
  Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 12:03 PM
  Subject: Re: Mel Gibson's "THE PASSION"

  What's your technical standpoint? That the Jews were responsible for Jesus's
  death? That's exactly the revisionist history that the Pope has said wasn't
  true.

  Now I don't claim to know what was true or not. Hell, we can't even seem to
  figure out if it's true that Bush lied or if Iraq had WMD, so how the hell
  are we going to know about something from 2 millenia ago? But the people who
  study this seem to say that the jews probably didn't have a hand in it.

  And at this point, pointing fingers isn't going to make anything better.
  It's only going to incite more anger. So why would anyone willingly choose
  to ignore current historical evidence and instead try to fuel the flames of
  hatred? Seems pretty un-Christian and hate-filled to me.

  -Kevin

  ----- Original Message -----
  From: "brob" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 11:57 AM
  Subject: Re: Mel Gibson's "THE PASSION"

  > Lets look at it from a technical standpoint.  Romans/Jews were
  "responsible" for Jesus's death, who himself was a Jew, who also had Jewish
  followers.  But utimately it was the Romans who handed down the sentence.
  Me thinks, from a political standpoint, that if Jesus were allowed to
  continue his preaching and gain power, the Romans/High Priests will not want
  that.
  >
  > Whats all the fuss these guys are making about Jews killing Jesus.  Jews
  have been persecuted and hated throughout history, so they dont really care
  who killed Jesus.  They hate Jews anyways
  >
  >
  >   ----- Original Message -----
  >   From: Michael Dinowitz
  >   To: CF-Community
  >   Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 11:35 AM
  >   Subject: Re: Mel Gibson's "THE PASSION"
  >
  >
  >   Because it says that the Jews were responsable for Jesus's death. This
  was
  >   officially recanted in Vaticant II but Gibson belongs to a sect that
  doesn't
  >   accept that.
  >   Historically, there are problems with the Jews being to blame. The fact
  that
  >   the Romans ruled the country and controled everything is the first. The
  >   second is that IF the last supper was the passover supper, then the next
  day
  >   was passover day and the Jewish court is NOT allowed to meet. A few of
  these
  >   minor technical difficulties exists, but not really important.
  >
  >   > Not to get into a pissing match with you, Mike, but isn't the movie
  >   supposed to be Biblically (New Testament) correct? Why is there a
  problem
  >   with this by the Jewish population if it is?
  >   >
  >   > - Matt Small
  >   >   ----- Original Message -----
  >   >   From: Michael Dinowitz
  >   >   To: CF-Community
  >   >   Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 12:03 PM
  >   >   Subject: Re: Mel Gibson's "THE PASSION"
  >   >
  >   >
  >   >   Trust me, you don't want to know. This thread is one of those "we're
  all
  >   >   going to hell" threads and knowing what rimming is just adds to the
  >   hell.
  >   >   Actually, let me rephrase that. I'm not going to hell for this
  thread
  >   (maybe
  >   >   for other things....). :)
  >   >   Being Jewish has its advantages sometimes (even though we're still
  >   blamed
  >   >   for Jesus's death by many including Gibson).
  >   >
  >   >   > Rimming?
  >   >   >
  >   >   >
  >   >   >
  >   >   > Rick
  >   >   >
  >   >   >
  >   >   >
  >   >   >   _____
  >   >   >
  >   >   > From: Jim Campbell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  >   >   > Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 10:05 AM
  >   >   > To: CF-Community
  >   >   >
  >   >   >
  >   >   >
  >   >   > Holmes 3:14: And the LORD rimmeth Mary and saw that it was good.
  >   >   >
  >   >   > - Jim
  >   >   >
  >   >   > brob wrote:
  >   >   >
  >   >   > >>>Maybe Josesph married her as soon as they found out she was
  >   pregnant
  >   >   > >>>
  >   >   > >>>
  >   >   > >
  >   >   > >I wonder if God AT LEAST allowed her to have an orgasm.  That was
  a
  >   90%
  >   >   > serious question.
  >   >   > >
  >   >   > >
  >   >   > >
  >   >   > >
  >   >   > >  ----- Original Message -----
  >   >   > >  From: Philip Arnold
  >   >   > >  To: CF-Community
  >   >   > >  Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 9:51 AM
  >   >   > >  Subject: RE: Mel Gibson's "THE PASSION"
  >   >   > >
  >   >   > >
  >   >   > >  > Morgan Freeman played God. So if God is black (I can't say
  God is
  >   an
  >   >   > >  African
  >   >   > >  > American) and the Virgin Mary is white....well you get the
  >   picture...
  >   >   > >
  >   >   > >  Who said that the Virin Mary is white?
  >   >   > >
  >   >   > >  Since she's from the Arabic area, she'd look more like an Arab
  than
  >   >   > >  Caucasian...
  >   >   > >
  >   >   > >  And didn't Gabriel "impregnate" Mary?
  >   >   > >
  >   >   > >  > By the way, wouldn't they have stoned Mary for having a child
  >   outside
  >   >   > >  of
  >   >   > >  > marriage?
  >   >   > >
  >   >   > >  Maybe Josesph married her as soon as they found out she was
  >   pregnant
  >   >   > >
  >   >   > >  > Wouldn't Joseph be a bit angry with God for knocking-up his
  wife?
  >   >   > >
  >   >   > >  The way I understood it, he wasn't her husband at the time...
  >   >   > >
  >   >   > >  Just my thoughts <g>
  >   >   > >
  >   >   > >
  >   >   > >
  >   >   > >
  >   >   >
  >   >   >   _____
  >   >   >
  >   >   >
  >   >   >
  >   >
  >   >
  >
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