Interesting. So, opening your eyes when someone asks you to is considered
reflexive? (That's what she did in that one video, though maybe you'd take
issue with whether or not she was really responding or if it just happened
to be a timing coincidence or some sort of instinctual reaction to the sound
of a voice.)

I'm just sort of pondering this. I've always said I wouldn't want to be kept
alive in a vegetative state (and I still think that's true). But, now I'm
just wondering if I should be more specific about what I mean. (And, yes, I
should probably put together a living will.)

-D

----- Original Message -----
From: "Larry C. Lyons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2003 12:51 PM
Subject: Re: This is .....

> Its more of a legal term.
>
> Consider this. Back in the early 80's researchers that put EEG electrodes
> in a bowl of jello. They got a similar EEG patterns to what you get when
> you measure someone who is in a persistent vegetative state.
>
> Also remember you can get reflexive action with people in that state, and
> from what I've read that is the only type of movement she's exhibited.
>
> larry
>
> At 12:42 PM 10/21/2003, you wrote:
> >Is "persistent vegetative state" a defined medical or legal term? Does it
> >really meen her EEG is essentially flatlined (no brain activity)? In the
> >videos she seems some what responsive. (Not arguing for keeping her
alive,
> >just wondering.)
> >
> >-Deanna
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Larry C. Lyons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2003 10:49 AM
> >Subject: RE: This is .....
> >
> > > But the woman is in a persistant vegetative state. That means her EEG
is
> > > almost flatlined except for minor fluctuations. Whoever she was
before,
> > > does not exist in that piece of flesh that's in the hospital bed. As
far
> >as
> > > I can see, give her mercy and let her die.
> > >
> > > larry
> > >
> > > At 11:13 AM 10/21/2003, you wrote:
> > > >btw...here's the other side of the tale.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >Take a good look.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >"
> > > ><http://www.friendsofterri.org/how's%20that%20cold.rm>
> > >
> >
><http://www.friendsofterri.org/how's%20that%20cold.rm>http://www.friendsoft
> >erri.org/how's%20that%20cold.rm
> > > >
> > > ><http://www.friendsofterri.org/Terri%20Big%20Eyes.rm>
> > >
> >
><http://www.friendsofterri.org/Terri%20Big%20Eyes.rm>http://www.friendsofte
> >rri.org/Terri%20Big%20Eyes.rm
> > > >
> > > >They removed her feeding tube, planning on starving her to death.
> > > >
> > > >She was denied therapy to make the minimal steps required for her to
eat
> > > >normally.
> > > >
> > > >"
> > > >
> > > >-Gel
> > > >
> > > >-----Original Message-----
> > > >From: John Stanley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > >Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2003 11:02 AM
> > > >To: CF-Community
> > > >Subject: This is .....
> > > >
> > > >....the most assinine thing ever. Why the f$%^ is the state
legislature
> > > >getting involved? The woman told her husband she didnt want to live
like
> > > >this. Man this pisses me off. It's nice to know that if my wife and I
> > > >discuss how we do or do not want to live when comatic or a vegetable,
> > > >that
> > > >our wishes mean nothing. God damn why cant people just let those who
are
> > > >deciding about their OWN lives decide? I
> > > >
> > >
> >
><http://www.cnn.com/2003/LAW/10/21/coma.woman/index.html>http://www.cnn.com
> >/2003/LAW/10/21/coma.woman/index.html
> > > ><http://www.cnn.com/2003/LAW/10/21/coma.woman/index.html>
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >   _____
> > > >
> > > >
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