:-)
>Well, I beg to differ.
>
> > Atkins says "carbs bad", all carbs. Protein and fat good. Ugh.
>
>Ugh, yes, if only it were true. But it isn't...Atkins (who has BTW
>modified and refined the diet over the years) recommends that one stay
>away from refined flours and sugars and recommends higher dietary fiber
>intake. Take a look at the Atkins bars in the grocery store next time
>you're there... and how about that low carb (low sugar) bread (Though it
>has the texture a banana bread which is a little weird on a
>turkey/cheese/lettuce sandwich)?
>
>And yes, he does (did) distinguish between good fat and bad fat.
>
> > but that they published before a lot of the current research on
>metabolism and cardiovascular health.
>
>Why does everyone assume that Atkins stopped researching when he first
>published thirty plus years ago? Did your doctor stop studying and
>learning once he/she earned his degree?
>
> > My cardiologist approves of South Beach. He does NOT approve of Atkins.
>
>hmm... my doctor approves of both. I guess the jury is still out... My
>doctor approves of the progress I've made on the Atkins diet, as I'm
>sure your doctor does of your progress on the South Beach. And good for
>you, too. I wouldn't dream of suggesting that your success is a fluke or
>an anomaly, so please don't take this as a criticism of your dietary
>choice. It's not.
>
> > The "no carb" phase of South Beach is only two weeks.
>
>Oddly enough, the Atkins Induction Phase ("No Carbs") is also (scroll
>down...spoilers below...)
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>two weeks long. And includes in the recommended lunch, a nice Green
>salad with dressing.
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>Oh and Atkins also said his diet wasn't for everybody. And it isn't. But
>it works. For me. YMMV
>
>will
>
>
>Ben Braver wrote:
>
>> Atkins is in no way "virtually the same diet".
>>
>> Atkins says "carbs bad", all carbs. Protein and fat good. Ugh.
>> Plus, Atkins IIRC does not distinguish between "good fats" and "bad fats".
>>
>> The author of South Beach gives credit to Atkins, Pritikin, and Ornish
>> for well-meant honest efforts, but that they published before a lot of
>> the current research on metabolism and cardiovascular health.
>>
>> He also talks about McGovern and crew and the original AHA diet based
>> on flawed research, including ignoring the data from Crete as an
>> "anomoly". That anomoly later turned out to be the key - Med. diet
>> (monounsaturated fats etc.).
>>
>> My cardiologist approves of South Beach. He does NOT approve of
>> Atkins. He told me I needed to cut down on the simple or refined carbs
>> which raised my Triglycerides because they affect bad LDL cholesterol.
>> Also told me I was doing the right thing in eating complex carbs /
>> whole grains with fiber, in eating lean sources of protein, and in
>> eating "good" fats.
>>
>> The "no carb" phase of South Beach is only two weeks. After that, it
>> is a lot more balanced. I haven't read the third "maintenance" phase yet.
>>
>> -Ben
>>
>> >Interesting that virtually the same diet...Atkins... is ridiculed as
>> >"un-healthy" and "will kill you"
>> >
>> >Tell me, does South Beach also have a portion of the diet whereupon
>> >raching your goal weight you level off at what amounts to a healthy diet
>> >balancing Protein, Fat, Carbs, etc.?
>> >
>> >Revolutionary....
>> >
>> >:-|
>> >
>> >will
>> >
>> >Ben Braver wrote:
>> >
>> >> Carb withdrawals? I sure think so.
>> >> Have been having some headaches etc.
>> >>
>> >> According to what I've read in South Beach Diet so far,
>> >> the yo-yo swings in blood sugar from high intake of simple
>> >> carbs can make you "insulin resistant".
>> >>
>> >> The first two weeks of the diet, virtually no carbs,
>> >> break you of this. Got to have some side effects.
>> >>
>> >> After, you add back good carbs (whole grains with fiber)
>> >> but continue to avoid bad carbs (refined white flour etc.).
>> >>
>> >> U.C. Berkeley Wellness Letter, a respected health monthly,
>> >> says South Beach looks like a sensible, healthy diet, and
>> >> the not-so-healthy first 2 weeks is short enough to not hurt.
>> >>
>> >> -Ben
>> >>
>> >> >Ben Braver wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> I've been having things like peanuts/cashews, roasted soy nuts,
>> >> >> edamame, Laughing Cow Light reduced-fat soft cheese on celery,
>> >> >> Mozzarella string cheese and bags of veggies, etc.
>> >> >
>> >> >I'm going to pick up some snack foods from a little health food
>> store in
>> >> >town. They have a great wasabi pea trail mix. It is sooooooo good.
>> >> >
>> >> >> Yes, according to South Beach Diet, heavy carbs can mess up your
>> >> >> body's response to insulin. Also, it causes "spikes" in blood sugar
>> >> >> which then make you crash, so you "yo-yo".
>> >> >
>> >> >Is there such a thing as carb withdrawals?
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>>
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