:-)
will
Ben Braver wrote:
> Oh.
> :-)
>
> >Well, I beg to differ.
> >
> > > Atkins says "carbs bad", all carbs. Protein and fat good. Ugh.
> >
> >Ugh, yes, if only it were true. But it isn't...Atkins (who has BTW
> >modified and refined the diet over the years) recommends that one stay
> >away from refined flours and sugars and recommends higher dietary fiber
> >intake. Take a look at the Atkins bars in the grocery store next time
> >you're there... and how about that low carb (low sugar) bread (Though it
> >has the texture a banana bread which is a little weird on a
> >turkey/cheese/lettuce sandwich)?
> >
> >And yes, he does (did) distinguish between good fat and bad fat.
> >
> > > but that they published before a lot of the current research on
> >metabolism and cardiovascular health.
> >
> >Why does everyone assume that Atkins stopped researching when he first
> >published thirty plus years ago? Did your doctor stop studying and
> >learning once he/she earned his degree?
> >
> > > My cardiologist approves of South Beach. He does NOT approve of
> Atkins.
> >
> >hmm... my doctor approves of both. I guess the jury is still out... My
> >doctor approves of the progress I've made on the Atkins diet, as I'm
> >sure your doctor does of your progress on the South Beach. And good for
> >you, too. I wouldn't dream of suggesting that your success is a fluke or
> >an anomaly, so please don't take this as a criticism of your dietary
> >choice. It's not.
> >
> > > The "no carb" phase of South Beach is only two weeks.
> >
> >Oddly enough, the Atkins Induction Phase ("No Carbs") is also (scroll
> >down...spoilers below...)
> >
> >..
> >
> >..
> >
> >..
> >
> >*gasp*
> >..
> >
> >..
> >
> >..
> >
> >two weeks long. And includes in the recommended lunch, a nice Green
> >salad with dressing.
> >
> >Oh and Atkins also said his diet wasn't for everybody. And it isn't. But
> >it works. For me. YMMV
> >
> >will
> >
> >
> >Ben Braver wrote:
> >
> >> Atkins is in no way "virtually the same diet".
> >>
> >> Atkins says "carbs bad", all carbs. Protein and fat good. Ugh.
> >> Plus, Atkins IIRC does not distinguish between "good fats" and "bad
> fats".
> >>
> >> The author of South Beach gives credit to Atkins, Pritikin, and Ornish
> >> for well-meant honest efforts, but that they published before a lot of
> >> the current research on metabolism and cardiovascular health.
> >>
> >> He also talks about McGovern and crew and the original AHA diet based
> >> on flawed research, including ignoring the data from Crete as an
> >> "anomoly". That anomoly later turned out to be the key - Med. diet
> >> (monounsaturated fats etc.).
> >>
> >> My cardiologist approves of South Beach. He does NOT approve of
> >> Atkins. He told me I needed to cut down on the simple or refined carbs
> >> which raised my Triglycerides because they affect bad LDL cholesterol.
> >> Also told me I was doing the right thing in eating complex carbs /
> >> whole grains with fiber, in eating lean sources of protein, and in
> >> eating "good" fats.
> >>
> >> The "no carb" phase of South Beach is only two weeks. After that, it
> >> is a lot more balanced. I haven't read the third "maintenance"
> phase yet.
> >>
> >> -Ben
> >>
> >> >Interesting that virtually the same diet...Atkins... is ridiculed as
> >> >"un-healthy" and "will kill you"
> >> >
> >> >Tell me, does South Beach also have a portion of the diet whereupon
> >> >raching your goal weight you level off at what amounts to a
> healthy diet
> >> >balancing Protein, Fat, Carbs, etc.?
> >> >
> >> >Revolutionary....
> >> >
> >> >:-|
> >> >
> >> >will
> >> >
> >> >Ben Braver wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Carb withdrawals? I sure think so.
> >> >> Have been having some headaches etc.
> >> >>
> >> >> According to what I've read in South Beach Diet so far,
> >> >> the yo-yo swings in blood sugar from high intake of simple
> >> >> carbs can make you "insulin resistant".
> >> >>
> >> >> The first two weeks of the diet, virtually no carbs,
> >> >> break you of this. Got to have some side effects.
> >> >>
> >> >> After, you add back good carbs (whole grains with fiber)
> >> >> but continue to avoid bad carbs (refined white flour etc.).
> >> >>
> >> >> U.C. Berkeley Wellness Letter, a respected health monthly,
> >> >> says South Beach looks like a sensible, healthy diet, and
> >> >> the not-so-healthy first 2 weeks is short enough to not hurt.
> >> >>
> >> >> -Ben
> >> >>
> >> >> >Ben Braver wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> I've been having things like peanuts/cashews, roasted soy nuts,
> >> >> >> edamame, Laughing Cow Light reduced-fat soft cheese on celery,
> >> >> >> Mozzarella string cheese and bags of veggies, etc.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >I'm going to pick up some snack foods from a little health food
> >> store in
> >> >> >town. They have a great wasabi pea trail mix. It is sooooooo good.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> Yes, according to South Beach Diet, heavy carbs can mess up your
> >> >> >> body's response to insulin. Also, it causes "spikes" in blood
> sugar
> >> >> >> which then make you crash, so you "yo-yo".
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Is there such a thing as carb withdrawals?
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >>
>
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