I've got nothing against BlueDragon, but JRun for the extra $3300 gives me
little things like EJB, JMS, JXTA, and a whole bunch of other acronyms I
can't understand.

One group I worked with was migrating legacy CF (~4.0) app to Websphere 4.0.
That project died and would have been a gimme for CFMX -- but by the time
the CFMX for J2EE version was out they were deep in EJB-land. JRun/CFMX
remains an option; WebSphere/CFMX remains an option. Bluedragon doesn't
unless I move up to for J2EE which costs 2499/CPU.

So

> > JRun 4 + CFMX = $900/CPU + $3400/CPU             = $4300/CPU
JRun 4 + BlueDragon for J2EE = $900/CPU + 2499/CPU = $3400/CPU ($4400 with
support)

not *that* big a cost savings. Plus if I need Flash Remoting, what's that go
for -- something like $900 more?

But cost is a poor comparison. Studies show blah blah hard/software are
10/20/30% of project total cost over time. blah blah maintenance.

And I've got my fingers crossed that you guys get everything straight with
JBoss which becomes

Tomcat/Jetty/etc + JBoss + BlueDragon for J2EE = $0/CPU + $0/CPU + 2499/CPU
= $2499/CPU ($3499 with support)

Regards,

John Paul Ashenfelter
CTO/Transitionpoint
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dick Applebaum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 9:55 PM
Subject: Re: BlueDragon J2EE on OSX - Working !!!


> On Tuesday, January 7, 2003, at 06:39 PM, Vince Bonfanti wrote:
>
> > JRun 4 + CFMX = $900/CPU + $3400/CPU = $4300/CPU
> > Tomcat + BlueDragon = Free + $1000/server = $1000/server
>
> Tomcat + CFMX for J2EE = Free + $3400/CPU = $3400/CPU
>
> Just to make the numbers right!
>
> But, is cost of acquisition the issue?
>
> If so, BlueDragon wins.
>
> What is the value of a J2EE-Certified app server (JRun).
>
> What is the value of latest version of CFML?
>
> What is the value of Clustering/Load-balancing, multiple server
> deployment.?
>
> I haven't looked at BlueDragon recently, so I do not know if these
> features are available.
>
> The point I am trying to make is that they are different products for
> different users.
>
> Dick
>
> >
> > Vince Bonfanti
> > New Atlanta Communications, LLC
> > http://www.newatlanta.com/bluedragon
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Sean A Corfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >> Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 1:24 PM
> >> To: CF-Talk
> >> Subject: Re: BlueDragon J2EE on OSX - Working !!!
> >>
> >>
> >> On Wednesday, Dec 11, 2002, at 07:11 US/Pacific, Joshua Miller wrote:
> >>> If you're interested, just use the default Apache
> >> installation, then
> >>> download Tomcat from http://jakarta.apache.org, then download
> >>> BlueDragon for J2EE from www.newatlanta.com and install
> >> them in order
> >>> (Apache, Tomcat, BlueDragon) - Now you can serve CFML from your Mac.
> >>
> >> You can now download JRun 4 for Mac OS X and CFMX for J2EE (JRun) for
> >> Mac OS X. That let's you serve CFMX-compatible CFML from your Mac.
> >>
> >> Sean A Corfield -- http://www.corfield.org/blog/
> >>
> >
> >
> 
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