Matt Robertson wrote:
>OK here goes:
>
>baseHRef,
>ImageHRef,
>AdminAreaHRef
>SecurebaseHRef,
>SecureImageHRef,
>SecureAdminAreaHRef
>BasePath
>ImagePath
>
>Multiply that by two (in the db ONLY) as my system keeps separate 
>values for dev and live servers.  A cfif in application.cfm decides 
>which server it is running on and converts the relevant value to a 
>request var, which is used everywhere.

I'm not saying this won't work, because clearly it will.  But does it take into 
account a hierarchy?  Can your adminareahref supply settings that are automatically 
inherited by it's children?  Or supply fuseactions that can be automatically executed 
when a child is called upon to perform some action?  Does it allow for built-in access 
modifiers?

>Well, there's the rub I think.  Is FB *that* much better that I'm 
>willing to take the good with what I perceive to be the bad.

Can you illustrate exactly what you percieve to be "bad"?

>I can't escape the conclusion that the bar seems awfully steep to 
>solve some basic issues whose solutions in turn are themselves simple 
>enough.  I guess if I could boil it down what I'm feeling when I look 
>at FB is its goals are all laudable but its just flat out overblown in 
>toto.

Again, this doesn't help me much in formulating a response.  What about Fusebox is 
"overblown"?  I don't think it could be much simpler: core files, configuration file 
(fusebox.xml), circuit files (circuit.xml).  That's all there is to the framework; the 
rest is just application code.

>Not necessarily.  I may not be agreeing, but I am listening carefully 
>to both you and Brian.  I really want to like FB and have an industry 
>standard framework to adhere to.  That all sounds wonderful... but the 
>question is whether FB is worth the trouble to implement?  

I truly appreciate anyone who is willing to objectively discuss any topic.  If 
everyone agreed on everything, the world would be a pretty boring place. But again, 
when you ask if "FB is worth the trouble to implement", I'm just missing what all the 
"trouble" is?  Can you be specific?

>I've pre-ordered the FB4 book and, when I find the time (the learning 
>curve is at least half the problem, I think) I'll try and implement it 
>on my GridMonger tool.  Thats a wonderfully functional doodad that is 
>just horribly laid out; the result of its origins as a very very 
>simple wizard-generated whatsit.  Sean needed a project 
>(http://corfield.org) to work on to get a true feel for FB and so do I.

Sounds like a great idea.  Please don't hesitate (not that I think you would) to post 
questions here or to the very helpful community at www.fusebox.org.

Regards,

Brian
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