Adam, This is the point I've been trying to make to Adobe all along. ColdFusion server is Enterprise level middle-ware. We run our service, Mlsfinder.com, across four physical ColdFusion Enterprise servers. We see 2.5 to 3 million page views per day. (I know, small compared to FaceBook but still huge.) We service MLS markets across the country and to do that requires lots and lots of code. This is a 10 year old application that is not as efficient as it should be, but this is the real world. Giant apps like this are never ideal lab cases, however they are great cases for testing and over stressing an IDE. Which is does.
The argument you've been making to me is that the bugs I mentioned were newly reported bugs that were reported after the RC release or that performance issues are due to third parties. The editor bug of the screen shifting left and right when editing longs lines was first reported five months ago. Some of the other bugs are newly reported bugs. You also said third parties like plug-ins or bugs in Aptana were the cause. Well, I would suspect at this point Adobe has a good working relationship with Aptana and if Adobe found a bug one or both of two things could/should happen. Either Aptana hurries up and fixes it OR Adobe contributes the fix to Aptana. So to blame Aptana seems a little unfair. So that leaves the Subversive plug-in for my SVN access. ColdFusion Builder is an IDE so yes, I want SVN access "Integrated". I've worked with Subclipse and Subversive and the results between the two are the same. Both make CFBuilder dead slow on large SVN repositories. Even Aptana and Eclipse/CFEclipse get slowed down. However, they are not nearly as bogged down as CFBuilder. In addition CFBuilder always ends up throwing errors part way through the process. An update of my code will take 10 to 20 minutes with CFBuilder on a good day. So yesterday I installed Aptana and CFEclipse and Subversive. Imagine my surprise when found NONE of the issues I had in ColdFusion Builder. Plus updating the code base from SVN only took 5.5 minutes. So what am I left thinking? I'm thinking there are bugs in ColdFusion Builder that need to be resolved before I will buy it for myself and before I can give my recommendation at work that we buy this for our development team. Adam, you know me, we've talked in person and you've visited the company I work at, WolfNet Technologies. Help me out here, I really want to buy this product and openly support it in the ColdFusion Community. So to answer your question of what would make a $299 IDE worth it? My answer is fix what you have. Then I will recommend it to our development team and company. Then lets build version 2.0! Thank You, Wil Genovese ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:332114 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm

