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Steve,
 
cheers for that.
 
At the moment I am actually hosting some sites on a 256/64 line $80 a month (NOT Telstra), no ports closed except port 25 for mail, but for a few bucks extra I could have that one open to. Also, I have quite a bit of experience with hosting, I ran my own hosting company for 5 years in Spain.
 
I just got this idea of expanding what I am currently doing and make some money with it, but some comments have certainly refreshed my memory and I will certainly think twice before I start again. Just wanted to have some thoughts and ideas on it, which everybody has been helpful with in giving them.
 
It's like you said, the main reason for doing something like this is so that you can set-up a new domain, mailboxes etc. without any hassle. When I first came here (2 years ago) I wanted to find some host to get me started and would host my machine for under $100 a month. But the cheapest I could find was $300 a month, I guess what I'm trying to do now is see if there is any demand for cheaper hosting (that cannot guarantee 100% uptime) but will get you started on the net..
 
Another thing to note, while you might not be making money on hosting, it certainly helps you get business for Development! It's like the PC store selling blank CD's, he's not actually making any money on selling them, but he does get the customers through the door by selling them.
 
 
Taco
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Soars
Sent: Tuesday, 8 July 2003 1:02 PM
To: CFAussie Mailing List
Subject: [cfaussie] RE: [OT] ADSL Q

Taco,
 
We host about 20 domains internally on an adsl connection, mainly shitty little html sites that get 100-1000 page views per month, most of our traffic is mail, [touch wood] we have had less than 4 hours total downtime in the past 12 months (due to the adsl) the previous 12 months we had a 14 day blackout - because telstra typed an ip address incorrectly
 
The cost of server setup maintenance and keeping the clients happy we would need about 40 paid domains to break even - which then puts the load outside of typical adsl bandwidth.
 
Remember that business adsl charges are far more expensive than domestic sevices - for about 1gb traffic in on a 512/512 connection you are looking at about $240 per month (or $290 for carrier grade like request etc).
If you want to have a go - try a linux distro called e-smith, its a cut down version of redhat with apache, mail, file server & firewall etc, its a very simple introduction into linux web hosting (i have never used it with cf though .....)
 
Its the little things that make a difference with your own hosting - is it easy to set up a domain, modify the mailboxes, change a password, monitoring the bandwidth used, charging your clients etc
If  the simple tasks are easy it allows you to concentrate on making money rather than stuffing around. Look at some sort of an administration system - if you want some advice you can email me off list. 
 
You will also need 2 x static ip addresses for your dns (if you want to host .com.au domains)
 
This is not a path to be taken lightly, you will need solid linux support 24 hours a day (either that or dont give your clients your mobile/home number :)
 
For any mission critical sites dont host them without bigtime redundancy - pay the extra bucks and host them outside.
 
This morning i walked throught the door & the phone was ringin' - my emails not working ........ ;(
 
Steve
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Taco Fleur
Sent: Monday, 7 July 2003 8:22 PM
To: CFAussie Mailing List
Subject: [cfaussie] [OT] ADSL Q

Would anyone on this list pay to have their ColdFusion websites cheaply hosted on a ADSL line, or on a ADSL line with your own server? (And being able to put/use any CF tag or DLL on it....)
 
Do a lot of people have sufficient knowledge to host their own websites, i.e. run Apache, IIS, SQL Server etc.?
 
Is this an area only interesting to sell to end-users and not CF developers?
 
Cheers for any response.
 
Taco
 
PS. I hope this is not an inappropriate question to ask on this list...!!
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