On 01/27/2011 08:48 AM, Herman Robak wrote:
Hi, everyone. I'm Herman Robak, the moderator of this mailing list.
8 years ago, I suggested forking Cinelerra in a post to the
web forum on Cinelerra's Sourceforge site. The result was the
"Community Version", a branch of Cinelerra hosted at the same
server as skolelinux.no.
To make a long story short: I was involved with the formation
of Skolelinux, now a sub-project of Debian-Edu. We saw a need
for a _usable_ and capable video editor that schools could use.
Free Software for Linux, of course. :-) So I used Skolelinux'
server to host the CVS repository we set up.
The web page and the repository(ies) has since moved to their
own server, but the mailing list is still hosted by Linpro,
with the same name as in 2003.
During the first year of CinCV, the pace of progress was good,
and the attitude was quite ambitious and optimistic.
Fast forward to 2010, when the activity is on the rise again.
Lumiera is still several years out, and we need something good
in the meantime. I don't see any other strong candidates than
Cinelerra, really. So what needs doing?
** An agenda, some kind of schedule, and a place to maintain it.
I suggest a corner of the Documentation Wiki at cinelerra.org
(Maybe frequent IRC meetings, too)
* A modest makeover of the GUI's look and feel.
That can be started right away, focusing on "low hanging fruit"
* A dig through the pile of old bugs, to find "repeat offenders",
typical annoyances, and hopefully some underlying causes.
* A performance review (like, framerate and responsiveness)
for typical loads (DV, HDV, DSLR footage, multiple tracks)
and various hardware.
* Setting some performance targets: By profiling Cinelerra's
resource use, and comparing with other applications, find out
where and how Cinelerra _should_ perform better. This will
require some effort from programmers.
(By "should" I mean "can be done" rather than "expected")
** People with the time, skills and ambition to do the above.
What is currently going on? Some development here and there
in various git repositories. Preparations for a makeover of
the cinelerra.org site, and preparations for automatic builds
and packaging ("nightly" builds, pulled from git.)
A word of advice: Have computers do the tedious and repetetive
work, like building, packaging and simple tests! We need the
manpower for other things.
Who's in? Developers, testers, designers, tutorial writers,
videographers, editors, sound recordists, anyone and everyone!
I certainly would be will to do testing If I could get just a
little hand holding to get started. I am a fiction writer and I guess
there may be a loose connection there to writing tutorials. I would be
willing to do either or both.
Here is a little about my feelings toward Cinelerra. First I use
Premeir in XP to make clips for a friend who is in the video buisness.
He uses Premeir so I use it to, as my Cinelerra files, he thinks may
cause him problems. He, is Paranoid about that on his dedicated machine.
I use Cinelerra for my hobby stuff. I like It better than Premier
which amazes my friend.
Here is the reason why! I like bending the bands to move camera
and projector zoom and lightness and darkness. I like doing the same
with sound. I try to make sound and video ebb and flow simularly to
attain a kind a rhythm, usually related to the the rhythm of the music,
though I try to pick music that matches the video.
In Premeir you work with each Picture or clip individually. You
get no over all Impression of the rhythm of the video until you actually
play it.
In Cinelerra I have right infront of me by way of the timeline
almost a garphical representaion of the look and feel of the Video
itself. I always go back and adjust some of the bands in video and
sound to get the look and feel that I want.
When talking about this I call this the artistic quality of
Cinelerra as compared to the more mechanical feel of Premier. This may
be my imagination but I do think it's so. I think it makes a difference
in the end product.
I hope that any changes that come along don't eliminate this
quality by going to some other manner of zooming and panning.
I used Cinecutie a little bit and it does look better but I don't
think it's kept up do date??
Doug
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