I hear what you're saying Phil, and agree that these two areas are very
different. My problem was always the forgetting the time when I was diving
in thousands lines of codes, and I would suddently look at the clock and
discover that it was 4 o'clock in the morning.
It doesn't mean however that you can't do both. It's like when I'm playing
my guitar. Sometimes, I grap my Jackson and play Satriani or Nuno, and at
other times, I grap my handmade Spanish guitar and play classical music, but
most often I use my SRV signature stratocaster and play blues.
The fun begins when you're mixing them all together - that's when you start
playing like Blackmore or Yngwie...
After that being said, I realize that keeping up with new technologies in
both areas can be tough and very time dependant, but it can be done.
Another 00000010 cents.
Take care,
Ole
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Ole Drews Jensen
Systems Network Manager
CCNA, MCSE, MCP+I
RWR Enterprises, Inc.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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http://www.RouterChief.com
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http://www.oledrews.com/job
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-----Original Message-----
From: Phil Barker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2001 4:56 AM
To: Ole Drews Jensen; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: To CCIE's without a job [7:12805]
Ole,
I think I know where Priscilla is coming from.
I developed software for 10 years (mainly C/C++)
before turning to Network Engineering. The difference
in the roles in my experience has been dramatic.
Software Engineering requires an intensity of
concentration that I can only compare to playing
chess. I was rarely required to interact with
customers and as a result my interpersonal skills
didn't develop.
I took my first job in Networking for a major
bank. This was very open plan and one day the team
leader called the regular meeting. Everyone shuffled
towards the meeting room EXCEPT me. 45 mins later my
team leader came looking for me. I was still at my
desk, deep in concentration. She couldn't stop
laughing as everyone else was taking bets as to when I
would realise that no-one else was there. I hadn't
noticed a thing.
Customer interaction has also been a learning
curve but fortunately I appear to have picked this
skill up quite naturally.
I am much happier in my work now and don't intend
to return to Software Development. Both Software
development and Network Engineering are such wide and
diverse fields you cannot possibly keep up with both.
I havn't written Software for 5 years now and
while the logical skill required to do so will never
leave me the Microsoft Foundation Clases certainly
have.
Regards,
Phil.
--- Ole Drews Jensen wrote: >
I don't agree with your Priscilla.
>
> Again, I am not a CCIE yet, but I'm on my way. I
> like doing both things (and
> system administration), but then again - maybe I
> have a split personality
> 8^O
>
> I agree with you about not finding many with this
> skill, but hopefully I
> will become one soon.
>
> Take care,
>
> Ole
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Ole Drews Jensen
> Systems Network Manager
> CCNA, MCSE, MCP+I
> RWR Enterprises, Inc.
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> http://www.OleDrews.com/CCNP
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> NEED A JOB ???
> http://www.oledrews.com/job
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Priscilla Oppenheimer
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2001 1:52 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: To CCIE's without a job [7:12805]
>
>
> That's a scary thought: CCIEs who develop protocols.
> ;-]
>
> They are looking for software engineers. They aren't
> going to find many
> that have a CCIE? It's a different skill set and
> requires a different type
> of personality.
>
> Priscilla
>
> At 09:41 AM 7/18/01, Ole Drews Jensen wrote:
> >Forgive me for sending this here, I know there's a
> place for job
> >discussions, but I noticed that there have been
> several e-mails about how
> >CCIE's now have a harder time getting jobs.
> >
> >I received this e-mail (look at the message
> included after my signature) on
> >another Cisco list I'm a member of:
> >
> >Hth,
> >
> >Ole
> >
> >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > Ole Drews Jensen
> > Systems Network Manager
> > CCNA, MCSE, MCP+I
> > RWR Enterprises, Inc.
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > http://www.OleDrews.com/CCNP
> >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > NEED A JOB ???
> > http://www.oledrews.com/job
> >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >
> >Message: 1
> >Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 15:11:26 -0000
> >From: "JDO" >
> >Subject: Looking for a Special Kind of CCIE
> >
> >Hello,
> >
> >My name is Johnna Smith and I work for a placement
> firm in Dallas,
> >Texas. I am in desperate need of a CCIE that
> DEVELOPS routing
> >protocols. I need them to have BGP, DSPF, IS-IS,
> and MPLS. The must
> >be a software engineer and they must be degreed.
> >
> >If any of you could help me, please give me a call
> or shoot me an
> >email at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or at
> >972-991-7569.
> >
> >Just to take a look at someof our other positions
> please go to
> >
> >
> >We also work with another agency that focuese more
> on IT, you can
> >find their site at
> >
> >Thanks
> >
> >Johnna
> ________________________
>
> Priscilla Oppenheimer
> http://www.priscilla.com
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