Hi, Anne,

Cavatibs wrote:
>
> I apologize for laboring this point but I seem to be reading your statements wrongly.
> Isn't it amazing how the English language can mean so many different things to so 
>many
> people!
>

I understand.  It is important to try to understand each other, too.

> In your second statement, you say that we (or you) are testing for long term 
>improvement
> yet in your first statement you say that your testing (or testing in general) does 
>not
> (necessarily) produce long term improvement.  If you truly believe that testing 
>makes no
> difference whatsoever to the health of your dogs, then why are you fully health
> testing?  You say you test for your knowledge and your breeding program -- if testing
> doesn't work, then what's the difference -- why would you need to know?

Short answer? HOPE. <G>  I HOPE that it works.  So I test.


>
> As Barb said, I know of no-one who advertises healthier puppies due to testing.  I 
>did
> not say I would take the dogs back before giving a refund -- I just  said I would 
>refund
> the purchase price of the dog.  I agree with you -- a guarantee to replace the dog if
> the dog is returned to the breeder, is not a guarantee at all.  Anyone who wishes to
> return my dog after even a year of owning him/her, I would not want owning another 
>dog
> of mine at all - I would rather refund the purchase price.

Agreed; and I wish you and yours a Merry Christmas and a truly happy and
healthy New Year!

Suze (still up wrapping...<G>)


>
> Anne
>
> "Susan A. Schlenger" wrote:
>
> > Hi, Anne,
> >         I don't see the contradiction in my statements.  The first statement
> > says that the immediate progeny of tested individuals may be inferred by
> > buyers to be "healthier, safer and live longer" and that that isn't
> > (necessarily) true.  The second statement says that we (or I) am testing
> > for long term improvment and not for the buying public.
> >         In no place did I say that I don't tell people that I do testing, in
> > fact I said my results are offered to anyone who asks whether or not
> > they are buying a dog from me.  What I said is that I don't ADVERTISE
> > healthier puppies due to testing.  I do just the opposite when I present
> > the test results and make sure that the buyer knows that this is for my
> > breeding program and will NOT guarantee that their pup won't get MVD, HD
> > or other genetic defects.  It is also called out in my contract in very
> > specific language.
> >
> > I am still haunted by the couple I saw this weekend who believe that
> > their three year old dog will somehow overcome early onset MVD because
> > her mother who got MVD at three was TESTED.  Somewhere they got this
> > illusion; they were not stupid people.  Anyone is capable of denial and
> > to deny that the pets we sell are still subject to early onset MVD is
> > the same sort of denial through which this couple is going.
> >
> > You say that you will take dogs back etc........do you think that they
> > want to return their three year old dog for a refund?  That was the
> > rationale pet stores used years ago to "guarantee" pups were free from
> > HD.  No one wanted to return the pup after a few days falling in love
> > with him/her.
> >
> > That is the crux of my problem with the "premier" site and other ads
> > like it.  Yes, it is important to do testing for MVD and other genetic
> > problems; I, and LOTS of other breeders do it.  NO, I don't think it
> > should be touted as unusual or special to so do.
> >
> > Suze
>
--
Suze at Llawen Cavaliers
"...I have seen that in any great undertaking it is not enough for a man
to depend simply upon himself."  -Isna Ia-wica
"Thought comes before speech" Luther Standing Bear

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