Darn. You know that old worn thread is one of my personal favorites. Myra
>From: Susan Cochran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: The Cavalier King Charles Spaniel List ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: [CKCS-L] group think >Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 21:47:37 -0500 > >Myra, you are taking what has been said personally. The discussion was >meant >be general and my portion of it certainly was not aimed at any one person >nor actually at any particular decision. In any event, if you test your >dogs >for your own knowledge and not to conform, then "groupthink" does not >apply. > >I was speaking in general terms and wasn't even thinking of testing so much >as other club decisions and "norms" of the past. There are many established >"norms" in the Cavalier world which are a product of "groupthink" and do a >disservice to the breed. The dual registry phenomenon for one. But I don't >mean to start that old worn thread. > >All the best, >Susan Cochran > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Myra Savant" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: Friday, January 25, 2002 9:16 PM >Subject: Re: [CKCS-L] group think > > > > As a breeder who tests for everything, it doesn't feel like a discussion >of > > customs and opinions. Myra > > > > > > >From: Annette Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >Reply-To: The Cavalier King Charles Spaniel List > > ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >Subject: Re: [CKCS-L] group think > > >Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2002 02:02:24 -0000 > > > > > >Myra > > >You must be reading different emails to me because I haven't seen >anyone > > >making fun of anyone in the posts I have read > > >I have seen people pointing out the differences between what happens in > > >different countries, I have seen people writing their opinions - that >is > > >not > > >making fun that is stating differences of customs and opinions > > > > > >Annette > > >----- Original Message ----- > > >From: "Myra Savant" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2002 1:48 AM > > >Subject: Re: [CKCS-L] group think > > > > > > > > > > Both clubs here in the US, mention health testing in their code of > > >ethics. > > > > CKCSC USA says something to the effect that they will not knowingly > > >breed > > >a > > > > dog with a genetically transmitted health problem. The ACKCS code >of > > >ethics > > > > is a little more strongly worded in my opinion, and says something >to > > >the > > > > effect that the breeder will take advantage of health testing. I > > >probably > > > > should look it up to get the wording exactly right, but you get my > > >general > > > > drift. It's too bad that a lot of you feel comfortable making fun >of > > >people > > > > who make choices to screen their dogs for genetically transmitted > > >diseases. > > > > There are people out there breeding these dogs who are trying very > > >hard > > >to > > > > do a good job. They may be inexperienced and trying not to make > > >mistakes > > >or > > > > ruin their lines early on by breeding dogs who will pass >debilitating > > > > diseases to their pups. Their vets may be equally inexperienced > > >treating > > > > cavaliers and may be giving them incorrect advice. What a shame that > > >they > > > > can't be given credit for going the extra mile. I'd far rather deal > > >with > > > > someone who tried too hard than to deal with someone who didn't try >hard > > > > enough. 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