Cathy, an owner of a Great Dane or other breed would not bother to look for a registered stud of another breed nor would a they consider paying a stud fee for a mismating. It is implied in the question that the bitch and stud are the same breed, registered with the same registry, and have full registration papers.
All the best, Susan Cochran ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cathy J. Gish" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2002 10:33 PM Subject: Re: [CKCS-L] vets > > > > If a stranger called you, said that they had seen your ad in Royal Spaniels, > > and asked to use one of your studs, would you refuse? > > > > All the best, > > Susan Cochran > > > > Given just this information which is NONE at all. I would refuse. Who knows they > may have a Great Dane or a poodle. They may want to start a new breed. I would > have to know lots more. > > Cathy > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Laura Trunk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2002 7:18 PM > > Subject: Re: [CKCS-L] vets > > > > > > The best way to explain it would be to describe the U.S. gene pool as > > > > similar to the gene pools of many small isolated islands. Although the > > > small > > > > islands make up one large group, there is very little exchange of > > genetic > > > > makeup between the islands. The gene pool diversity of each island is > > > > already greatly reduced by availability before you ever begin to > > inbreed. > > > > > > I wish I had an example of this to refer to. I'm wracking my brain trying > > > to figure out what you mean as I see absolutely no sign of what you are > > > talking about at the shows I go to and the breeders I know. > > > > > > I do find that Cavaliers are not bred as closely as the majority of breeds > > > and on one hand I agree with Peggy that this is not so good for consistent > > > type and/or to establish a recognizable line. There is no doubt that > > there > > > is more variability amongst Cavaliers than breeders of many other breeds > > are > > > used to. Considering that, Cavaliers could most indeed benefit greatly > > from > > > closer breeding--WHEN we consider type ONLY. > > > > > > But now is not the time to do so. 99% of our dogs develop MVD and I don't > > > care whether some of them live 12-14 years without any real problems--99% > > OF > > > OUR DOGS DEVELOP MVD! That is a major cause for not breeding all that > > > closely for now--unless one is very, very, VERY careful. By being careful > > > I'm talking about closely breeding only OLDER dogs (over 7 years of age) > > who > > > have proven conclusively that they and their relatives are quite healthy > > and > > > vigorous--all 4 grandparents lived past 12 years of age (barring accidents > > > and weird situations) and were healthy, and more than 50% of all related > > > dogs and offspring were cardiologist tested yearly and the vast majority > > > found to be MVD clear past 7 years of age. To do otherwise would not > > > benefit Cavaliers healthwise at all, and is very likely to negatively > > affect > > > the health of those Cavaliers involved. > > > > > > I feel at this point in time that longevity in this breed suffers with > > close > > > breeding--that seems to be what I'm seeing in most--but not all--cases. > > > > > > I just cannot see sacrificing Cavalier health even more so for better > > > type--especially when even the most experienced, most knowledgeable > > breeders > > > can't always agree on what proper Cavalier type is!! Type is not all that > > > cut and dried--there is still some variability amongst even the most > > > knowledgeable breeders with the best eye. We all know it is POOR when a > > dog > > > develops MVD at age 3 and GOOD when a dog doesn't develop MVD until age > > 10. > > > But ask 10 top breeders to pick out what they consider a POOR head and a > > > GOOD head and you will find some variation. So maybe, just maybe, we are > > > getting too ridiculous in our expectations of type. I know I am guilty of > > > this at times and I fight it because I realize that what I consider good > > > type is just an OPINION--it is not a fact! There is room for some > > difference > > > in interpretation of type, even more so in light of MVD. For now I don't > > > mind breeders who breed to good, typey dogs but do not linebreed or > > closely > > > breed. And that is how I think most breeders in the U.S. today are > > breeding > > > with only some exceptions. > > > > > > Laura Lang > > > Roycroft Cavaliers > > > > > > ========================================================= > > > "Magic Commands": > > > to stop receiving mail for awhile, click here and send the email: > > > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=SET%20CKCS-L%20NOMAIL > > > to start it up gain click here: > > > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=SET%20CKCS-L%20MAIL > > > > > > E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] for assistance. > > > Search the Archives... http://apple.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ckcs-l.html > > > > > > All e-mail sent through CKCS-L is Copyright 2002 by its original author. > > > > ========================================================= > > "Magic Commands": > > to stop receiving mail for awhile, click here and send the email: > > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=SET%20CKCS-L%20NOMAIL > > to start it up gain click here: > > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=SET%20CKCS-L%20MAIL > > > > E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] for assistance. > > Search the Archives... http://apple.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ckcs-l.html > > > > All e-mail sent through CKCS-L is Copyright 2002 by its original author. > > -- > http://www.FlyingColorsCavaliers.com > > ========================================================= > "Magic Commands": > to stop receiving mail for awhile, click here and send the email: > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=SET%20CKCS-L%20NOMAIL > to start it up gain click here: > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=SET%20CKCS-L%20MAIL > > E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] for assistance. > Search the Archives... http://apple.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ckcs-l.html > > All e-mail sent through CKCS-L is Copyright 2002 by its original author. ========================================================= "Magic Commands": to stop receiving mail for awhile, click here and send the email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=SET%20CKCS-L%20NOMAIL to start it up gain click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=SET%20CKCS-L%20MAIL E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] for assistance. 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