> IMO a good moving dog is one that is clean coming and going with plenty of
> drive and reach from the side.   what i am seeing in the ring are dogs who
> take little pitter patter steps (dont cover any ground), elbows out, hocks
> rubbing together when they move, rear legs swinging around etc. etc. etc.

I agree.

> i dont think movement is subjective at all.  i think you either know it or
> you dont and alot of people just get too emotionally involved to be able
to
> assess the dog properly.  others just dont see it for whatever reason just
> like there are some people who have been breeding for years and still cant
> pick a good dog.

IMO I agree too, but a little bit of me finds good movement *easy* enough to
learn that I really wonder how someone could not learn or how someone could
so not want to learn they could avoid learning entirely or overlook poor
movement.   There are so many who don't know good movement.  So I can't help
but think that maybe, just maybe, there is a bit more subjectivity to it
than I want to believe.

> yes there is such a thing as perfect movement. all you need do is watch
the
> groups and every so often there are some dogs that will take your breath
away
> when they move.

This I don't agree with. I do find something wrong with all of them--however
subtle it may be.  I think perfection is impossible.

> actually any dog that moves with its head held high is not correct.  if
the
> center of gravity is in the right place,  a correctly moving dog will move
> with its head level with its back.  when the head is carried too high,
many
> times it can also be due to straight shoulders.  and yes it does look
flashy
> to see dogs moving out with their heads held high.

I agree again.  What if a dog naturally holds it's head high but has good
shoulders?  What else could be wrong?

If a dog moves REALLY well, truly clean, very good reach and drive, very
smooth, head held properly--is it possible for that dog to look flashy.   Or
could such a dog move so fluidly it doesn't even get noticed except by the
very best judges or under the very best circumstances.

Laura Lang
Roycroft Cavaliers

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