Thank you Bruce for writing this it is wonderful.

Cathy Gish

Bruce Duggan wrote:

> Everyone is I think touching on what I think the real issue is.... Education
> of both the public who are out looking to buy dogs, and of the byb who think
> they are providing a good service and who feel they ARE doing it ethically.
> I am not a breeder in any sense. I have 1 male Cavalier who is 9 years old
> and was neutered at around 1-1/2 years. I had the opportunity to be
> instructed in what breeding really entailed and decided that I was not in a
> position to do it, but previous to that probably shared much of the same
> thoughts and feelings that some of these byb's do. I grew up with dogs
> around me all the time. They were all mixed breed dogs that my parents
> either picked up at the local shelter or found in the paper. We had some
> good ones, and some that suffered the ills of improper breeding. I grew up
> though hearing that 'purebred' dogs were high strung, that breeding to try
> to set a type only brought out the worst in personality. As an adult though,
> I had decided I wanted a dog too. I was a bit concerned that I might end up
> with a dog that matched some of the more problem dogs I remembered as a
> child and wondered how I could be sure I would get a good dog. I headed off
> to the local library to get as many dog books as I could find to see if I
> could figure out if there was a trick to finding or raising a 'good dog'.
> That was a real eye opener! It really changed my view on purebreds and
> breeding/showing. I attended my first dog show soon after and for the first
> time was introduced to what purebred dogs were all about. So now I was
> feeling pretty enthused about this, it looked like fun and I thought 'maybe
> I should get into this breeding thing'. I went back to the library to do
> some research now on what type of dog I would like to breed. After going
> thru numerous books I found Sheila Smith's book CKCS Today. That was it, I
> wanted to breed Cavaliers. I started my search for a breeder to get my first
> female to get started. The response I got from these breeders though was not
> at all what I expected. I thought I could just phone one up, place an order
> for a top quality female and then go pick it up and away I would go. You can
> imagine what the response was, but what surprised me was how upset these
> people got and how rude they were telling me there was no way they would
> sell me such a dog. I finally contacted one breeder who listened patiently
> and thru a lot of questions found out where I was coming from, being very
> nice and helpful the whole way. She invited me over to have a look at what
> breeding entailed and to talk some more. Thru the course of a few months she
> introduced me to breeding, never selling me that female I wanted though
> since she said none of these were the quality I wanted ( I know now that
> those dogs have done very well but she convinced me she was trying to help
> me find the best, very sneaky). All the time though my eyes were being
> opened to what was involved in this, how important the health checks were,
> the lines behind each dog and the value of showing your dogs to see if what
> you thought you were seeing was true. She then offered to do a breeding with
> me - I would help pick the dogs, go thru the whole process of mating etc,
> raise the puppies in my home for a few weeks (from about 4 weeks old to 7
> weeks) and help find homes for them. And if we produced the 'top quality'
> female I was looking for I could have that one to get started.
> What a big learning experience again. This was just not as simple as I
> thought it would be. Thankfully she had arranged homes for all of these
> puppies long before they were all bred, because that really shocked me - how
> do I find a good home for these puppies I had put all this work into? I
> couldn't trust an ad in the paper, what if those people didn't really
> appreciate what they were getting! I was lost!
> So without my knowing it, she had changed my mind on breeding. I took one of
> the males and decided to move on to just showing dogs. We had fun and while
> Duke only showed as a pup (he just never came back into his own after his
> teenage years) I learnt a lot from that.
> Now if this breeder hadn't taken the time to be truly helpful, I might have
> found a Cavalier in a pet shop or from some other source and continued down
> the path my mind was set on - breeding.
> So I think education plays a big role in really helping some of these
> people. And kindness will go a long way. I hinted back at the beginning of
> this thread that I was a bit put off since I hadn't been welcomed to this
> list. That wasn't entirely true. In my intro I summarized my whole
> experience with cavaliers into a couple of sentences thinking that I would
> be welcomed more if people realized that I have had some experience with
> Cavaliers other then just being owned by Duke. I assumed that people would
> think the best, not assume the worst. I was wrong. Some thought that the way
> I had worded my intro that both I and the breeder who took this time to
> educate me were bordering on being millers. I got a call from this breeder
> shortly after as she was upset since while she isn't part of this list, she
> had been called and questioned about what she was doing. She asked that I
> never mention her name on this list and that this part of why she refuses to
> participate in these discussions. So I did get welcomed in a round about
> way, but negatively. I understand why some feel that way and commend their
> love of the breed and everything that is good for it. But it is possible
> that the way we react to those who haven't been given a chance to learn
> properly may be the very thing that stops them from learning, and we have
> actually done a big dis-service to our lovely dogs.
> It is at least something to consider.
>
> Bruce
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