I totally agree with you ,The competition is certainly at breed level in
this country with the numbers we  are  competing with,if you get a place in
a toy group that's an added bonus,but to win a CC is much nicer,most of our
toy group judges here tend to go on form and follow the last show.
mark
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Annette Jones" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, March 29, 2002 8:55 PM
Subject: Re: [CKCS-L] Curious


> Sorry Myra I disagree! VBG It's at breed level the real competition is -
if
> you beat a couple of hundred others of the same breed to me that is far
> better than beating one of every other breed in the Toy group. There it
> boils down very much to the knowledge of the judge and at the end of the
day
> his/her personal preference - nothing to do with structure or movement -
> there are other breeds that have exactly the same problems or similar at
any
> rate.
>
> Annette
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Myra Savant" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, March 29, 2002 5:57 PM
> Subject: Re: [CKCS-L] Curious
>
>
> > Look, everybody knows I am an idiot, and there are many things that I
> don't
> > know.  However, this is something to ponder.  The real "showing" isn't
> done
> > at a class level.  It is done at a group level.  For too many years,
> > cavaliers were judged in sort of a vacumn because they were judged only
> > against each other.  It was almost like 'just go for the pretty head
> because
> > all the rear ends are so bad.'  So, they didn't have to develop that
kind
> of
> > structure that they needed to compete with a poodle, for instance.   It
is
> > important to remember that they are dogs.  They need to be built like a
> dog.
> >   They need to move like a well-built dog.  Now for the last several
> years,
> > they have had to compete against other toy dogs in the group ring.
Sure,
> we
> > see dogs in the ring that shouldn't be there.  I've probably shown a
> couple
> > myself.  I probably will again in the future just because of ignorance
or
> > just because I feel like doing it.  However.....those dogs will not ever
> > compete in a group ring.  They will take their little ribbon home and
they
> > may even make up their championship.  They will not, however succeed in
> the
> > group ring.  Also....if a dog places in group, you can no longer use the
> > excuse that it won because it was professionally handled.  The huge
> majority
> > of dogs in the group ring are professionally handled.  Not all....but
the
> > majority.   I'm not sure exactly what motivates me to show my dogs.  I
> know
> > for sure it isn't greed.  I guess it could be ego.  The feeling I get
when
> > one of my dogs wins in group, or Best Puppy in show or something like
that
> > is the same feeling I used to get when my children performed at a piano
> > recital or something.  I just feel proud of them, and I feel just a
little
> > bit like bragging on them.  Certainly not money motivated and not even
> > particularly fun.  When my dog is in the show ring, I am very stressed
> about
> > it.  I get very nervous.  I'm so afraid he will make a mistake.  Just
> > exactly like it was at the piano recital.  So, is that Ego?  I don't
> > honestly know.  Myra
> >
> >
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