Hi, List,
Now I really need an opinion. Same bitch, second
litter. Her temp dropped at 1:00 pm and stayed down yesterday. (As I
write it is 99.1). She was panting and nesting all night (I was
sleeping next to the whelping box or a reasonable facsimile of the
occasional nap). Water hasn't broken to my knowledge.
The last time she whelped her temp pattern was as
follows:
10:00 am, 99.8 10:00 pm, 100.0
10:00 am, 99.2 2:00 pm, 99.6 10:00 pm 99.1 (began nesting and panting
after midnight)
10:00 am, 98.8 12:45 pum, 99.1 4:00 pu, 97.8 10:00 pum 98.1 (water
broke
shortly after and productive labor began).
She produced her first puppy "true breech" (upside down, breech) and
large, stuck. Placenta though attached was "thready" body of the pup
was ridged on presentation. Delivered with contractions/traction
slowly. Couldn't revive the pup with swinging, dopram, etc. Four
healthy pups free whelped followed. No further problems. Literature
suggests that in temp pattern such as above a pup has detached from the
uterine wall and is ready to be born. (Which is why we hear they
shouldn't labor in primary stage more than twenty four hours from temp
drop).
The current litter temp pattern:
10:00 am, 100.1 2:00 pm 99.6 6:00 pm 99.4 9:45 pm, 99.1 panting and
mildly uncomfortable, nesting furiously and pacing the rest of the
night.
We are waiting for her water to break and to see productive labor. OK
guys, I know they don't read the books, but they all say inertia if
temps are down twenty four hours. By mid day today do I officially
declare inertia? She is going for a short walks up and down the
driveway.
She has had ice cream in small dabs throughout the night and doesn't yet
appear as exhausted as I feel. <G>)
Today when I asked my vet her procedure for sections (if one
should be needed) she said I could resuscitate babies but they would be
whisked out to me and I couldn't be in surgery. She took over from her
brother.....another excellent vet also interested in repro and we had
had this discussion back then. (He told me that it was the exception but
that I would be allowed into a section). I've not needed a section
before. Since my discussions with both vets (her brother is gone into
specialization), it seems that things have changed.
No choices today but to procede and hope we have normal labor
shortly.
I'm also told that her procedure for pitocin is i.v. and that she
prefers then to have the birthing THERE if any pitocin is needed.
<moan>
So, what has all of your experiences been with anything like
this?
Help me talk this girl into productive contractions, eh? I'm off to
walk her on the driveway with a towel in hand.
Suze
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Suze at Llawen Cavaliers
"...I have seen that in any great undertaking it is not enough for a man
to depend simply upon himself." -Isna Ia-wica
"Thought comes before speech" Luther Standing Bear
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