If she whelped naturally last time, then just be patient. The time to worry is if she breaks water and nothing happens after that. We've had as long as 2 hours between water breaking and a live birth.
Over the last few years, we have done less and less intervention as I want our girls to free whelp. I'm getting too old to pull those "all nighters". This seems to be working as our last litter was totally free whelped. Phoebe didn't want my help although I checked on her every hour or two during the night. I left the light on in the sunroom so she could see what she was doing and so I could peek in at her every time I got up without disturbing her. If I stepped in, she would pick the puppies up in her mouth, tuck them under her and out of sight. She would let me check them, but she wanted to "do it herself". All the best, Susan Cochran ----- Original Message ----- From: "Susan A. Schlenger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2002 11:29 AM Subject: [CKCS-L] Primary Uterine Inertia? > Hi, List, > Now I really need an opinion. Same bitch, second > litter. Her temp dropped at 1:00 pm and stayed down yesterday. (As I > write it is 99.1). She was panting and nesting all night (I was > sleeping next to the whelping box or a reasonable facsimile of the > occasional nap). Water hasn't broken to my knowledge. > > The last time she whelped her temp pattern was as > follows: > > 10:00 am, 99.8 10:00 pm, 100.0 > 10:00 am, 99.2 2:00 pm, 99.6 10:00 pm 99.1 (began nesting and panting > after midnight) > 10:00 am, 98.8 12:45 pum, 99.1 4:00 pu, 97.8 10:00 pum 98.1 (water > broke > shortly after and productive labor began). > > She produced her first puppy "true breech" (upside down, breech) and > large, stuck. Placenta though attached was "thready" body of the pup > was ridged on presentation. Delivered with contractions/traction > slowly. Couldn't revive the pup with swinging, dopram, etc. Four > healthy pups free whelped followed. No further problems. Literature > suggests that in temp pattern such as above a pup has detached from the > uterine wall and is ready to be born. (Which is why we hear they > shouldn't labor in primary stage more than twenty four hours from temp > drop). > > > The current litter temp pattern: > > 10:00 am, 100.1 2:00 pm 99.6 6:00 pm 99.4 9:45 pm, 99.1 panting and > mildly uncomfortable, nesting furiously and pacing the rest of the > night. > > We are waiting for her water to break and to see productive labor. OK > guys, I know they don't read the books, but they all say inertia if > temps are down twenty four hours. By mid day today do I officially > declare inertia? She is going for a short walks up and down the > driveway. > She has had ice cream in small dabs throughout the night and doesn't yet > appear as exhausted as I feel. <G>) > > Today when I asked my vet her procedure for sections (if one > should be needed) she said I could resuscitate babies but they would be > whisked out to me and I couldn't be in surgery. She took over from her > brother.....another excellent vet also interested in repro and we had > had this discussion back then. (He told me that it was the exception but > that I would be allowed into a section). I've not needed a section > before. Since my discussions with both vets (her brother is gone into > specialization), it seems that things have changed. > No choices today but to procede and hope we have normal labor > shortly. > I'm also told that her procedure for pitocin is i.v. and that she > prefers then to have the birthing THERE if any pitocin is needed. > <moan> > So, what has all of your experiences been with anything like > this? > > Help me talk this girl into productive contractions, eh? I'm off to > walk her on the driveway with a towel in hand. > > > > Suze > -- > Suze at Llawen Cavaliers > "...I have seen that in any great undertaking it is not enough for a man > to depend simply upon himself." -Isna Ia-wica > "Thought comes before speech" Luther Standing Bear > > ========================================================= > "Magic Commands": > to stop receiving mail for awhile, click here and send the email: > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=SET%20CKCS-L%20NOMAIL > to start it up gain click here: > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=SET%20CKCS-L%20MAIL > > E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] for assistance. > Search the Archives... http://apple.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ckcs-l.html > > All e-mail sent through CKCS-L is Copyright 2002 by its original author. ========================================================= "Magic Commands": to stop receiving mail for awhile, click here and send the email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=SET%20CKCS-L%20NOMAIL to start it up gain click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=SET%20CKCS-L%20MAIL E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] for assistance. Search the Archives... http://apple.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ckcs-l.html All e-mail sent through CKCS-L is Copyright 2002 by its original author.
