Hi, Susan,
Thanks for this. I, too prefer the least intervention. However, I do
pull the all nighters as I won't sleep if I am not there nearby at any
rate. <G>.
We are going for a walk now.....
Suze
Susan Cochran wrote:
>
> If she whelped naturally last time, then just be patient. The time to worry
> is if she breaks water and nothing happens after that. We've had as long as
> 2 hours between water breaking and a live birth.
>
> Over the last few years, we have done less and less intervention as I want
> our girls to free whelp. I'm getting too old to pull those "all nighters".
> This seems to be working as our last litter was totally free whelped. Phoebe
> didn't want my help although I checked on her every hour or two during the
> night. I left the light on in the sunroom so she could see what she was
> doing and so I could peek in at her every time I got up without disturbing
> her. If I stepped in, she would pick the puppies up in her mouth, tuck them
> under her and out of sight. She would let me check them, but she wanted to
> "do it herself".
> All the best,
> Susan Cochran
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Susan A. Schlenger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2002 11:29 AM
> Subject: [CKCS-L] Primary Uterine Inertia?
>
> > Hi, List,
> > Now I really need an opinion. Same bitch, second
> > litter. Her temp dropped at 1:00 pm and stayed down yesterday. (As I
> > write it is 99.1). She was panting and nesting all night (I was
> > sleeping next to the whelping box or a reasonable facsimile of the
> > occasional nap). Water hasn't broken to my knowledge.
> >
> > The last time she whelped her temp pattern was as
> > follows:
> >
> > 10:00 am, 99.8 10:00 pm, 100.0
> > 10:00 am, 99.2 2:00 pm, 99.6 10:00 pm 99.1 (began nesting and panting
> > after midnight)
> > 10:00 am, 98.8 12:45 pum, 99.1 4:00 pu, 97.8 10:00 pum 98.1 (water
> > broke
> > shortly after and productive labor began).
> >
> > She produced her first puppy "true breech" (upside down, breech) and
> > large, stuck. Placenta though attached was "thready" body of the pup
> > was ridged on presentation. Delivered with contractions/traction
> > slowly. Couldn't revive the pup with swinging, dopram, etc. Four
> > healthy pups free whelped followed. No further problems. Literature
> > suggests that in temp pattern such as above a pup has detached from the
> > uterine wall and is ready to be born. (Which is why we hear they
> > shouldn't labor in primary stage more than twenty four hours from temp
> > drop).
> >
> >
> > The current litter temp pattern:
> >
> > 10:00 am, 100.1 2:00 pm 99.6 6:00 pm 99.4 9:45 pm, 99.1 panting and
> > mildly uncomfortable, nesting furiously and pacing the rest of the
> > night.
> >
> > We are waiting for her water to break and to see productive labor. OK
> > guys, I know they don't read the books, but they all say inertia if
> > temps are down twenty four hours. By mid day today do I officially
> > declare inertia? She is going for a short walks up and down the
> > driveway.
> > She has had ice cream in small dabs throughout the night and doesn't yet
> > appear as exhausted as I feel. <G>)
> >
> > Today when I asked my vet her procedure for sections (if one
> > should be needed) she said I could resuscitate babies but they would be
> > whisked out to me and I couldn't be in surgery. She took over from her
> > brother.....another excellent vet also interested in repro and we had
> > had this discussion back then. (He told me that it was the exception but
> > that I would be allowed into a section). I've not needed a section
> > before. Since my discussions with both vets (her brother is gone into
> > specialization), it seems that things have changed.
> > No choices today but to procede and hope we have normal labor
> > shortly.
> > I'm also told that her procedure for pitocin is i.v. and that she
> > prefers then to have the birthing THERE if any pitocin is needed.
> > <moan>
> > So, what has all of your experiences been with anything like
> > this?
> >
> > Help me talk this girl into productive contractions, eh? I'm off to
> > walk her on the driveway with a towel in hand.
> >
> >
> >
> > Suze
> > --
> > Suze at Llawen Cavaliers
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