In a message dated 6/22/2002 10:44:25 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> too many people want something for nothing > and are not taking into consideration all the time and effort it takes to > raise a litter, not to mention the cost. and donning my flame suite, i will > also say that there is nothing wrong with wanting to be compensated for all > that. > "all that" (in my limited one litter first hand experience) is really not "all that bad" or at least not as monumental a chore as some would make it out to be. Yes there are problem litters, tube feeding, sick puppies, deaths, heartbreak etc. I hear of far more though that are smooth births and all goes well where the "big chore" is playing with the puppies and cleaning up some pee. I guess maybe it depends on if one views having a litter as a joy or a burden. I think the going prices for a show Cavalier are more then enough compensation for the effort and cost in most cases. Yes I am sure there are execptions. I see nothing wrong with puppy back deals if the original price of the show Cavalier was discounted below common cost of a show dog and both parties agree up front the compensation is the puppy back to make up the difference. If the breeder ends up with the value (cash or puppy) of more then one show puppy by going rates then it was in my opinion an unfair deal or at the very least a poor value. Co-ownerships are fine if both parties agree to them, and many people enjoy them, but that doesn't mean they are always a good value or fair. In more cases then not Co-ownerships are slanted to favor the breeder. Sometimes extremely so. Another form of measurement I like to use...... Look at the beautiful show dogs that have come in from England and other countries. Many have come at no more in cost then the asking cash value of an american show dog. With no strings or puppies back. If measuring the deal you have in the end in puppy or cash paid is more then it would cost to get a good import or other show dog on average then you did not get a good value. Charging $1,500 for a show puppy THEN taking a puppy back (which can be sold for $1,500) means the cost of that original dog to the owner is $3,000 (and I am using the low end numbers sometimes it is much greater). These situations are not good value or fair deals in my opinion. As far as keeping a line going I think it is much fairer for the breeder to require first option to BUY a pup that is bred and is not going to be kept at the going rate. THAT is fair and I have found more and more dealing in this manner. Hats off to these people. This gives the breeder an opportunity to keep the line going without ripping off the original buyer of the dog. These are the people you want to deal with, they are truly trying to help and deal in a fair manner. I'm thankful to have found more and more people dealing fairly and less lemmings who automatically slap a co-own on a show dog "because thats the way it has always been done". Dave CastleMyst Cavaliers http://members.aol.com/CMystCavs ========================================================= "Magic Commands": to stop receiving mail for awhile, click here and send the email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=SET%20CKCS-L%20NOMAIL to start it up gain click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=SET%20CKCS-L%20MAIL E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] for assistance. Search the Archives... http://apple.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ckcs-l.html All e-mail sent through CKCS-L is Copyright 2002 by its original author.
