What Dave said. Myra
>From: Dave Wagner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: The Cavalier King Charles Spaniel List ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: [CKCS-L] co-owning/pet and show prices >Date: Sat, 22 Jun 2002 12:17:25 EDT > >In a message dated 6/22/2002 10:44:25 AM Eastern Standard Time, >[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > too many people want something for nothing > > and are not taking into consideration all the time and effort it takes >to > > raise a litter, not to mention the cost. and donning my flame suite, i >will > > also say that there is nothing wrong with wanting to be compensated for >all > > that. > > >"all that" (in my limited one litter first hand experience) is really not >"all that bad" or at least not as monumental a chore as some would make it >out to be. Yes there are problem litters, tube feeding, sick puppies, >deaths, heartbreak etc. I hear of far more though that are smooth births >and >all goes well where the "big chore" is playing with the puppies and >cleaning >up some pee. I guess maybe it depends on if one views having a litter as >a >joy or a burden. > >I think the going prices for a show Cavalier are more then enough >compensation for the effort and cost in most cases. Yes I am sure there >are >execptions. I see nothing wrong with puppy back deals if the original >price >of the show Cavalier was discounted below common cost of a show dog and >both >parties agree up front the compensation is the puppy back to make up the >difference. If the breeder ends up with the value (cash or puppy) of more >then one show puppy by going rates then it was in my opinion an unfair deal >or at the very least a poor value. > >Co-ownerships are fine if both parties agree to them, and many people enjoy >them, but that doesn't mean they are always a good value or fair. In more >cases then not Co-ownerships are slanted to favor the breeder. Sometimes >extremely so. > >Another form of measurement I like to use...... Look at the beautiful show >dogs that have come in from England and other countries. Many have come at >no more in cost then the asking cash value of an american show dog. With >no >strings or puppies back. If measuring the deal you have in the end in >puppy >or cash paid is more then it would cost to get a good import or other show >dog on average then you did not get a good value. > >Charging $1,500 for a show puppy THEN taking a puppy back (which can be >sold >for $1,500) means the cost of that original dog to the owner is $3,000 (and >I >am using the low end numbers sometimes it is much greater). These >situations >are not good value or fair deals in my opinion. > >As far as keeping a line going I think it is much fairer for the breeder to >require first option to BUY a pup that is bred and is not going to be >kept >at the going rate. THAT is fair and I have found more and more dealing in >this manner. Hats off to these people. This gives the breeder an >opportunity to keep the line going without ripping off the original buyer >of >the dog. These are the people you want to deal with, they are truly trying >to help and deal in a fair manner. I'm thankful to have found more and >more >people dealing fairly and less lemmings who automatically slap a co-own on >a >show dog "because thats the way it has always been done". > >Dave >CastleMyst Cavaliers >http://members.aol.com/CMystCavs > >========================================================= >"Magic Commands": >to stop receiving mail for awhile, click here and send the email: >mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=SET%20CKCS-L%20NOMAIL >to start it up gain click here: >mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=SET%20CKCS-L%20MAIL > > E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] for assistance. >Search the Archives... http://apple.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ckcs-l.html > >All e-mail sent through CKCS-L is Copyright 2002 by its original author. Myra Savant Gardengate Cavaliers _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx ========================================================= "Magic Commands": to stop receiving mail for awhile, click here and send the email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=SET%20CKCS-L%20NOMAIL to start it up gain click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=SET%20CKCS-L%20MAIL E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] for assistance. Search the Archives... http://apple.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ckcs-l.html All e-mail sent through CKCS-L is Copyright 2002 by its original author.
