And how does IPcop "feel" compared to Smoothwall?

Kev.



----- Original Message -----
From: "Jarrod Major" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2002 9:02 PM
Subject: Re: (clug-talk) SmoothWall help


> Hey Guys,
>
> Just wanted to drop a quick note to let you know that I got IPCop
> downloaded, verified and installed. Recognized the cards right off the
bat.
> Your guess is as good as mine as to why the SmoothWall install failed.
>
> Anyway, wanted to report a success. The end config is as follows:
>
> Dell P233
> 64 Mb SDRAM
> 1 Gb HD
> SMC Ethernet 10BaseT NIC
> RealTek 8139 10/100BaseT NIC
>
> Red & Green setup
>
> Now the fun of phasing out my old Gateway...
>
> Jarrod Major
> CLUG Treasurer
> Registered Linux User: #224211
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jarrod Major" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2002 4:15 PM
> Subject: Re: (clug-talk) SmoothWall help
>
>
> > Hey Kev,
> >
> > It appears that they have been patching it. I'm not sure when the last
> patch
> > was posted but I do have all the ones that needed to be applied to
> > SmoothWall. I think I will have to give IPcop a go for sure. It seems
that
> > these guys have taken the torch and run with it.
> >
> > I'll post my results to the list.
> >
> > Thanks again guys!
> >
> > Jarrod
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Kevin Anderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2002 3:56 PM
> > Subject: Re: (clug-talk) SmoothWall help
> >
> >
> > > The fork is called IPcop.
> > >
> > > I haven't done much more than see either, but it might help.
Smoothwall
> > GPL
> > > seemed old, the last time I checked.  Not that that is a bad thing,
but
> it
> > > made me worry that they weren't really supporting it anymore.
> > >
> > > Kev.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Jarrod Major" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2002 10:40 AM
> > > Subject: Re: (clug-talk) SmoothWall help
> > >
> > >
> > > > Hey Doug, Jason, Kevin and Graham,
> > > >
> > > > I am using SmoothWall GPL 0.9.9 SE and I have the patches for it as
> > well.
> > > > Yes I believe it has been forked but this is the most recent stable
> GPL
> > > > version. There is a beta but I wanted to stay away from that for
now.
> > > >
> > > > Kevin I believe the Fork is one they are charging for so I don't
think
> > > that
> > > > will do. If you find something that is still GPL let me know.
> > > >
> > > > Yes, we had tried setting SmoothWall up with only one NIC in at a
time
> > to
> > > > see if we could isolate it. This also did not work.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks for the link Doug, I may try LRP but I wanted something
robust
> > > enough
> > > > to handle some tricky stuff. The P90 and P166 only have about 32Mb
RAM
> > so
> > > > I'm not sure if they would be able to run LRP. The P233 has 64MB and
> > > appears
> > > > to be a more likely candidate. I may check this out.
> > > >
> > > > Good questions and suggestions guys.
> > > >
> > > > BTW, Graham, I too have heard that RealTek's can be flaky but I have
> > used
> > > > them in all my computers and they seem to work fine. If you want to
> > check
> > > > your DLink card to find out whether it is a RealTek card it should
be
> > > fairly
> > > > obvious, the chip should have rtl followed by either 8129 or 8139 on
> it
> > > for
> > > > the 10BaseT or 10/100BaseT respectively. I know that some cards by a
> > > > particular manufacturer spontaneously change chipmakers during the
> > course
> > > of
> > > > a NIC card's lifespan. It starts out as a RealTek then they get
> > something
> > > > else. So when you think you using a card that has good Linux support
> for
> > a
> > > > particular chipset and the manufacturer changes you are hooped. I
> always
> > > > check my hardware. The better support sites not only list the
hardware
> > but
> > > > even go so far as to list chipsets to offset this issue.
> > > >
> > > > Jarrod
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Graham Monk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2002 10:19 AM
> > > > Subject: Re: (clug-talk) SmoothWall help
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Jarrod Major wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > >I decided to try my hand at making a home firewall/gateway.
> > SmoothWall
> > > > > >seemed to be the distro of choice. I had two computers that were
> > likely
> > > > > >candidates for the job an IBM Aptiva P166 and a Packard Bell P90.
> > Both
> > > > still
> > > > > >very serviceable. I also have a small collection of Linux-proven
> > NIC's
> > > > that
> > > > > >I thought would work just fine in this application.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >After several attempts on these two boxes, I ended up picking up
a
> > Dell
> > > > > >Pentium 233. This computer also seems to not want to take to
> > installing
> > > > > >SmoothWall. I have checked the SmoothWall site for hardware
> > > compatibility
> > > > > >and the NIC's for the most part appear to be supported. Here's a
> list
> > > of
> > > > > >what I have and the Linux driver module typically used:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >PCI
> > > > > >RealTek 8139 10/100 - rtl8139
> > > > > >RealTek 8129 10 BaseT - ne2k-pc / ne2k / ne
> > > > > >SMC EtherPower - tulip
> > > > > >
> > > > > >ISA
> > > > > >Intel EtherExpress 16 - eexpress
> > > > > >3Com ?? - ??
> > > > > >
> > > > > >All three computers will get to the Green NIC probe phase and
fail.
> > The
> > > > > >probe will not autodetect the cards. I have gone into manual mode
> and
> > > > given
> > > > > >it the appropriate module, IO and IRQ. All to no avail. These
cards
> > > have
> > > > all
> > > > > >worked under Windows not very long ago and some have even run
> > perfectly
> > > > fine
> > > > > >under other distributions of Linux. I am very careful with my
> > hardware
> > > so
> > > > I
> > > > > >cannot believe that they could all be bad.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >The ISO I used for burning my SmoothWall disc was checked against
> the
> > > MD5
> > > > > >Checksum and it was verified.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >I cannot believe that three computers would all refuse to take
this
> > > > install
> > > > > >with various NIC's in place. I enlisted Marcel's help and he
could
> > not
> > > > > >overcome my install issues either. We're both stymied.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Anyone have any experience they'd like to share or any advice?
> Thanks
> > > in
> > > > > >advance.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >As an aside, we even attempted to throw OpenBSD on one of the
boxes
> > and
> > > > it
> > > > > >crapped out almost immediately. We were pretty tired at this
point
> so
> > > we
> > > > did
> > > > > >not delve too deeply into this install. It was a floppy/FTP
> install.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Jarrod Major
> > > > > >CLUG Treasurer
> > > > > >Registered Linux User: #224211
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > Hi Jarrod
> > > > > I fear I may make myself look stupid here but anyway,
> > > > > I had problems with smoothwall myself using Dlink cards
> > > > > which are supposed to use realtek chips but do something weird
> > > > > with them. I found that startec S100 works well.
> > > > > Suggestion,.... Try installing with only one card ( first one then
> the
> > > > > other)
> > > > > This should at least isolate which card is causing problems,
> assuming
> > > > > this is not something you have allready tried.
> > > > > Graham
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>
>

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