Just out of curiosity, what is the size of Smoothwall and or IPcop?


Kevin Anderson wrote:

And how does IPcop "feel" compared to Smoothwall?

Kev.



----- Original Message -----
From: "Jarrod Major" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2002 9:02 PM
Subject: Re: (clug-talk) SmoothWall help



Hey Guys,

Just wanted to drop a quick note to let you know that I got IPCop
downloaded, verified and installed. Recognized the cards right off the

bat.

Your guess is as good as mine as to why the SmoothWall install failed.

Anyway, wanted to report a success. The end config is as follows:

Dell P233
64 Mb SDRAM
1 Gb HD
SMC Ethernet 10BaseT NIC
RealTek 8139 10/100BaseT NIC

Red & Green setup

Now the fun of phasing out my old Gateway...

Jarrod Major
CLUG Treasurer
Registered Linux User: #224211

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jarrod Major" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2002 4:15 PM
Subject: Re: (clug-talk) SmoothWall help



Hey Kev,

It appears that they have been patching it. I'm not sure when the last

patch

was posted but I do have all the ones that needed to be applied to
SmoothWall. I think I will have to give IPcop a go for sure. It seems

that

these guys have taken the torch and run with it.

I'll post my results to the list.

Thanks again guys!

Jarrod

----- Original Message -----
From: "Kevin Anderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2002 3:56 PM
Subject: Re: (clug-talk) SmoothWall help



The fork is called IPcop.

I haven't done much more than see either, but it might help.

Smoothwall

GPL

seemed old, the last time I checked. Not that that is a bad thing,

but

it

made me worry that they weren't really supporting it anymore.

Kev.



----- Original Message -----
From: "Jarrod Major" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2002 10:40 AM
Subject: Re: (clug-talk) SmoothWall help



Hey Doug, Jason, Kevin and Graham,

I am using SmoothWall GPL 0.9.9 SE and I have the patches for it as

well.

Yes I believe it has been forked but this is the most recent stable

GPL

version. There is a beta but I wanted to stay away from that for

now.

Kevin I believe the Fork is one they are charging for so I don't

think

that

will do. If you find something that is still GPL let me know.

Yes, we had tried setting SmoothWall up with only one NIC in at a

time

to

see if we could isolate it. This also did not work.

Thanks for the link Doug, I may try LRP but I wanted something

robust

enough

to handle some tricky stuff. The P90 and P166 only have about 32Mb

RAM

so

I'm not sure if they would be able to run LRP. The P233 has 64MB and

appears

to be a more likely candidate. I may check this out.

Good questions and suggestions guys.

BTW, Graham, I too have heard that RealTek's can be flaky but I have

used

them in all my computers and they seem to work fine. If you want to

check

your DLink card to find out whether it is a RealTek card it should

be

fairly

obvious, the chip should have rtl followed by either 8129 or 8139 on

it

for

the 10BaseT or 10/100BaseT respectively. I know that some cards by a
particular manufacturer spontaneously change chipmakers during the

course

of

a NIC card's lifespan. It starts out as a RealTek then they get

something

else. So when you think you using a card that has good Linux support

for

a

particular chipset and the manufacturer changes you are hooped. I

always

check my hardware. The better support sites not only list the

hardware

but

even go so far as to list chipsets to offset this issue.

Jarrod

----- Original Message -----
From: "Graham Monk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2002 10:19 AM
Subject: Re: (clug-talk) SmoothWall help



Jarrod Major wrote:


I decided to try my hand at making a home firewall/gateway.

SmoothWall

seemed to be the distro of choice. I had two computers that were

likely

candidates for the job an IBM Aptiva P166 and a Packard Bell P90.

Both

still

very serviceable. I also have a small collection of Linux-proven

NIC's

that

I thought would work just fine in this application.

After several attempts on these two boxes, I ended up picking up

a

Dell

Pentium 233. This computer also seems to not want to take to

installing

SmoothWall. I have checked the SmoothWall site for hardware

compatibility

and the NIC's for the most part appear to be supported. Here's a

list

of

what I have and the Linux driver module typically used:

PCI
RealTek 8139 10/100 - rtl8139
RealTek 8129 10 BaseT - ne2k-pc / ne2k / ne
SMC EtherPower - tulip

ISA
Intel EtherExpress 16 - eexpress
3Com ?? - ??

All three computers will get to the Green NIC probe phase and

fail.

The

probe will not autodetect the cards. I have gone into manual mode

and

given

it the appropriate module, IO and IRQ. All to no avail. These

cards

have

all

worked under Windows not very long ago and some have even run

perfectly

fine

under other distributions of Linux. I am very careful with my

hardware

so

I

cannot believe that they could all be bad.

The ISO I used for burning my SmoothWall disc was checked against

the

MD5

Checksum and it was verified.

I cannot believe that three computers would all refuse to take

this

install

with various NIC's in place. I enlisted Marcel's help and he

could

not

overcome my install issues either. We're both stymied.

Anyone have any experience they'd like to share or any advice?

Thanks

in

advance.

As an aside, we even attempted to throw OpenBSD on one of the

boxes

and

it

crapped out almost immediately. We were pretty tired at this

point

so

we

did

not delve too deeply into this install. It was a floppy/FTP

install.

Jarrod Major
CLUG Treasurer
Registered Linux User: #224211





Hi Jarrod
I fear I may make myself look stupid here but anyway,
I had problems with smoothwall myself using Dlink cards
which are supposed to use realtek chips but do something weird
with them. I found that startec S100 works well.
Suggestion,.... Try installing with only one card ( first one then

the

other)
This should at least isolate which card is causing problems,

assuming

this is not something you have allready tried.
Graham











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