Hey Steven, The download was under 30Mb so it was pretty quick and the burning obviously didn't take too long either. I'm not sure what the footprint on the hard drive is but I think I have some room to play on my 1 Gb HD. I don't intend to run anything but the firewall on that box so it should be plenty for log files.
Jarrod ----- Original Message ----- From: "steven K" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2002 11:01 PM Subject: Re: (clug-talk) SmoothWall help > Just out of curiosity, what is the size of Smoothwall and or IPcop? > > > > Kevin Anderson wrote: > > >And how does IPcop "feel" compared to Smoothwall? > > > >Kev. > > > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Jarrod Major" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2002 9:02 PM > >Subject: Re: (clug-talk) SmoothWall help > > > > > > > > > >>Hey Guys, > >> > >>Just wanted to drop a quick note to let you know that I got IPCop > >>downloaded, verified and installed. Recognized the cards right off the > >> > >> > >bat. > > > > > >>Your guess is as good as mine as to why the SmoothWall install failed. > >> > >>Anyway, wanted to report a success. The end config is as follows: > >> > >>Dell P233 > >>64 Mb SDRAM > >>1 Gb HD > >>SMC Ethernet 10BaseT NIC > >>RealTek 8139 10/100BaseT NIC > >> > >>Red & Green setup > >> > >>Now the fun of phasing out my old Gateway... > >> > >>Jarrod Major > >>CLUG Treasurer > >>Registered Linux User: #224211 > >> > >>----- Original Message ----- > >>From: "Jarrod Major" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2002 4:15 PM > >>Subject: Re: (clug-talk) SmoothWall help > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>>Hey Kev, > >>> > >>>It appears that they have been patching it. I'm not sure when the last > >>> > >>> > >>patch > >> > >> > >>>was posted but I do have all the ones that needed to be applied to > >>>SmoothWall. I think I will have to give IPcop a go for sure. It seems > >>> > >>> > >that > > > > > >>>these guys have taken the torch and run with it. > >>> > >>>I'll post my results to the list. > >>> > >>>Thanks again guys! > >>> > >>>Jarrod > >>> > >>>----- Original Message ----- > >>>From: "Kevin Anderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>>Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2002 3:56 PM > >>>Subject: Re: (clug-talk) SmoothWall help > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>>The fork is called IPcop. > >>>> > >>>>I haven't done much more than see either, but it might help. > >>>> > >>>> > >Smoothwall > > > > > >>>GPL > >>> > >>> > >>>>seemed old, the last time I checked. Not that that is a bad thing, > >>>> > >>>> > >but > > > > > >>it > >> > >> > >>>>made me worry that they weren't really supporting it anymore. > >>>> > >>>>Kev. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>----- Original Message ----- > >>>>From: "Jarrod Major" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>>>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>>>Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2002 10:40 AM > >>>>Subject: Re: (clug-talk) SmoothWall help > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>Hey Doug, Jason, Kevin and Graham, > >>>>> > >>>>>I am using SmoothWall GPL 0.9.9 SE and I have the patches for it as > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>well. > >>> > >>> > >>>>>Yes I believe it has been forked but this is the most recent stable > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>GPL > >> > >> > >>>>>version. There is a beta but I wanted to stay away from that for > >>>>> > >>>>> > >now. > > > > > >>>>>Kevin I believe the Fork is one they are charging for so I don't > >>>>> > >>>>> > >think > > > > > >>>>that > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>will do. If you find something that is still GPL let me know. > >>>>> > >>>>>Yes, we had tried setting SmoothWall up with only one NIC in at a > >>>>> > >>>>> > >time > > > > > >>>to > >>> > >>> > >>>>>see if we could isolate it. This also did not work. > >>>>> > >>>>>Thanks for the link Doug, I may try LRP but I wanted something > >>>>> > >>>>> > >robust > > > > > >>>>enough > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>to handle some tricky stuff. The P90 and P166 only have about 32Mb > >>>>> > >>>>> > >RAM > > > > > >>>so > >>> > >>> > >>>>>I'm not sure if they would be able to run LRP. The P233 has 64MB and > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>appears > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>to be a more likely candidate. I may check this out. > >>>>> > >>>>>Good questions and suggestions guys. > >>>>> > >>>>>BTW, Graham, I too have heard that RealTek's can be flaky but I have > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>used > >>> > >>> > >>>>>them in all my computers and they seem to work fine. If you want to > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>check > >>> > >>> > >>>>>your DLink card to find out whether it is a RealTek card it should > >>>>> > >>>>> > >be > > > > > >>>>fairly > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>obvious, the chip should have rtl followed by either 8129 or 8139 on > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>it > >> > >> > >>>>for > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>the 10BaseT or 10/100BaseT respectively. I know that some cards by a > >>>>>particular manufacturer spontaneously change chipmakers during the > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>course > >>> > >>> > >>>>of > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>a NIC card's lifespan. It starts out as a RealTek then they get > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>something > >>> > >>> > >>>>>else. So when you think you using a card that has good Linux support > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>for > >> > >> > >>>a > >>> > >>> > >>>>>particular chipset and the manufacturer changes you are hooped. I > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>always > >> > >> > >>>>>check my hardware. The better support sites not only list the > >>>>> > >>>>> > >hardware > > > > > >>>but > >>> > >>> > >>>>>even go so far as to list chipsets to offset this issue. > >>>>> > >>>>>Jarrod > >>>>> > >>>>>----- Original Message ----- > >>>>>From: "Graham Monk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>>>>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>>>>Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2002 10:19 AM > >>>>>Subject: Re: (clug-talk) SmoothWall help > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>>Jarrod Major wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>I decided to try my hand at making a home firewall/gateway. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>SmoothWall > >>> > >>> > >>>>>>>seemed to be the distro of choice. I had two computers that were > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>likely > >>> > >>> > >>>>>>>candidates for the job an IBM Aptiva P166 and a Packard Bell P90. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>Both > >>> > >>> > >>>>>still > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>>>very serviceable. I also have a small collection of Linux-proven > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>NIC's > >>> > >>> > >>>>>that > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>>>I thought would work just fine in this application. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>After several attempts on these two boxes, I ended up picking up > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >a > > > > > >>>Dell > >>> > >>> > >>>>>>>Pentium 233. This computer also seems to not want to take to > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>installing > >>> > >>> > >>>>>>>SmoothWall. I have checked the SmoothWall site for hardware > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>compatibility > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>>>and the NIC's for the most part appear to be supported. Here's a > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>list > >> > >> > >>>>of > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>>>what I have and the Linux driver module typically used: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>PCI > >>>>>>>RealTek 8139 10/100 - rtl8139 > >>>>>>>RealTek 8129 10 BaseT - ne2k-pc / ne2k / ne > >>>>>>>SMC EtherPower - tulip > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>ISA > >>>>>>>Intel EtherExpress 16 - eexpress > >>>>>>>3Com ?? - ?? > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>All three computers will get to the Green NIC probe phase and > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >fail. > > > > > >>>The > >>> > >>> > >>>>>>>probe will not autodetect the cards. I have gone into manual mode > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>and > >> > >> > >>>>>given > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>>>it the appropriate module, IO and IRQ. All to no avail. These > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >cards > > > > > >>>>have > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>all > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>>>worked under Windows not very long ago and some have even run > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>perfectly > >>> > >>> > >>>>>fine > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>>>under other distributions of Linux. I am very careful with my > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>hardware > >>> > >>> > >>>>so > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>I > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>>>cannot believe that they could all be bad. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>The ISO I used for burning my SmoothWall disc was checked against > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>the > >> > >> > >>>>MD5 > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>>>Checksum and it was verified. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>I cannot believe that three computers would all refuse to take > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >this > > > > > >>>>>install > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>>>with various NIC's in place. I enlisted Marcel's help and he > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >could > > > > > >>>not > >>> > >>> > >>>>>>>overcome my install issues either. We're both stymied. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>Anyone have any experience they'd like to share or any advice? > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>Thanks > >> > >> > >>>>in > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>>>advance. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>As an aside, we even attempted to throw OpenBSD on one of the > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >boxes > > > > > >>>and > >>> > >>> > >>>>>it > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>>>crapped out almost immediately. We were pretty tired at this > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >point > > > > > >>so > >> > >> > >>>>we > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>did > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>>>not delve too deeply into this install. It was a floppy/FTP > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>install. > >> > >> > >>>>>>>Jarrod Major > >>>>>>>CLUG Treasurer > >>>>>>>Registered Linux User: #224211 > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>Hi Jarrod > >>>>>>I fear I may make myself look stupid here but anyway, > >>>>>>I had problems with smoothwall myself using Dlink cards > >>>>>>which are supposed to use realtek chips but do something weird > >>>>>>with them. I found that startec S100 works well. > >>>>>>Suggestion,.... Try installing with only one card ( first one then > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>the > >> > >> > >>>>>>other) > >>>>>>This should at least isolate which card is causing problems, > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>assuming > >> > >> > >>>>>>this is not something you have allready tried. > >>>>>>Graham > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >
