Hey Jason,
I hate to show my ineptitude but how do you get this? Are there commands
that I have to use or is this copied from the web admin?
Keep in mind that I haven't actually put this into my network yet. Or maybe
that's what you are after? Virgin settings sans logs.
Jarrod
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jason Van Dellen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, November 28, 2002 3:54 PM
Subject: Re: (clug-talk) SmoothWall help
I'm not sure about IPcop,
But here's a printout from one of my Smoothwall boxes Memory and Disk Usage:
Memory:
total used free shared buffers cached
Mem: 30736 28848 1888 18200 5648 8400
-/+ buffers/cache: 14800 15936
Swap: 17132 0 17132
Disk usage:
Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on
/dev/hda4 380M 46M 315M 13% /
/dev/hda1 5.7M 2.3M 3.1M 42% /boot
/dev/hda3 97M 9.7M 82M 11% /var/log
Jarrod, do you think you can do the same, I'm curious to see.
Jason
On Wednesday 27 November 2002 23:01, you wrote:
> Just out of curiosity, what is the size of Smoothwall and or IPcop?
>
> Kevin Anderson wrote:
> >And how does IPcop "feel" compared to Smoothwall?
> >
> >Kev.
> >
> >
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
>
> From: "Jarrod Major" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2002 9:02 PM
> >Subject: Re: (clug-talk) SmoothWall help
> >
> >>Hey Guys,
> >>
> >>Just wanted to drop a quick note to let you know that I got IPCop
> >>downloaded, verified and installed. Recognized the cards right off the
> >
> >bat.
> >
> >>Your guess is as good as mine as to why the SmoothWall install failed.
> >>
> >>Anyway, wanted to report a success. The end config is as follows:
> >>
> >>Dell P233
> >>64 Mb SDRAM
> >>1 Gb HD
> >>SMC Ethernet 10BaseT NIC
> >>RealTek 8139 10/100BaseT NIC
> >>
> >>Red & Green setup
> >>
> >>Now the fun of phasing out my old Gateway...
> >>
> >>Jarrod Major
> >>CLUG Treasurer
> >>Registered Linux User: #224211
> >>
> >>----- Original Message -----
> >>From: "Jarrod Major" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2002 4:15 PM
> >>Subject: Re: (clug-talk) SmoothWall help
> >>
> >>>Hey Kev,
> >>>
> >>>It appears that they have been patching it. I'm not sure when the last
> >>
> >>patch
> >>
> >>>was posted but I do have all the ones that needed to be applied to
> >>>SmoothWall. I think I will have to give IPcop a go for sure. It seems
> >
> >that
> >
> >>>these guys have taken the torch and run with it.
> >>>
> >>>I'll post my results to the list.
> >>>
> >>>Thanks again guys!
> >>>
> >>>Jarrod
> >>>
> >>>----- Original Message -----
> >>>From: "Kevin Anderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>>Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2002 3:56 PM
> >>>Subject: Re: (clug-talk) SmoothWall help
> >>>
> >>>>The fork is called IPcop.
> >>>>
> >>>>I haven't done much more than see either, but it might help.
> >
> >Smoothwall
> >
> >>>GPL
> >>>
> >>>>seemed old, the last time I checked. Not that that is a bad thing,
> >
> >but
> >
> >>it
> >>
> >>>>made me worry that they weren't really supporting it anymore.
> >>>>
> >>>>Kev.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>----- Original Message -----
> >>>>From: "Jarrod Major" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>>>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>>>Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2002 10:40 AM
> >>>>Subject: Re: (clug-talk) SmoothWall help
> >>>>
> >>>>>Hey Doug, Jason, Kevin and Graham,
> >>>>>
> >>>>>I am using SmoothWall GPL 0.9.9 SE and I have the patches for it as
> >>>
> >>>well.
> >>>
> >>>>>Yes I believe it has been forked but this is the most recent stable
> >>
> >>GPL
> >>
> >>>>>version. There is a beta but I wanted to stay away from that for
> >
> >now.
> >
> >>>>>Kevin I believe the Fork is one they are charging for so I don't
> >
> >think
> >
> >>>>that
> >>>>
> >>>>>will do. If you find something that is still GPL let me know.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Yes, we had tried setting SmoothWall up with only one NIC in at a
> >
> >time
> >
> >>>to
> >>>
> >>>>>see if we could isolate it. This also did not work.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Thanks for the link Doug, I may try LRP but I wanted something
> >
> >robust
> >
> >>>>enough
> >>>>
> >>>>>to handle some tricky stuff. The P90 and P166 only have about 32Mb
> >
> >RAM
> >
> >>>so
> >>>
> >>>>>I'm not sure if they would be able to run LRP. The P233 has 64MB and
> >>>>
> >>>>appears
> >>>>
> >>>>>to be a more likely candidate. I may check this out.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Good questions and suggestions guys.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>BTW, Graham, I too have heard that RealTek's can be flaky but I have
> >>>
> >>>used
> >>>
> >>>>>them in all my computers and they seem to work fine. If you want to
> >>>
> >>>check
> >>>
> >>>>>your DLink card to find out whether it is a RealTek card it should
> >
> >be
> >
> >>>>fairly
> >>>>
> >>>>>obvious, the chip should have rtl followed by either 8129 or 8139 on
> >>
> >>it
> >>
> >>>>for
> >>>>
> >>>>>the 10BaseT or 10/100BaseT respectively. I know that some cards by a
> >>>>>particular manufacturer spontaneously change chipmakers during the
> >>>
> >>>course
> >>>
> >>>>of
> >>>>
> >>>>>a NIC card's lifespan. It starts out as a RealTek then they get
> >>>
> >>>something
> >>>
> >>>>>else. So when you think you using a card that has good Linux support
> >>
> >>for
> >>
> >>>a
> >>>
> >>>>>particular chipset and the manufacturer changes you are hooped. I
> >>
> >>always
> >>
> >>>>>check my hardware. The better support sites not only list the
> >
> >hardware
> >
> >>>but
> >>>
> >>>>>even go so far as to list chipsets to offset this issue.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Jarrod
> >>>>>
> >>>>>----- Original Message -----
> >>>>>From: "Graham Monk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>>>>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>>>>Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2002 10:19 AM
> >>>>>Subject: Re: (clug-talk) SmoothWall help
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>Jarrod Major wrote:
> >>>>>>>I decided to try my hand at making a home firewall/gateway.
> >>>
> >>>SmoothWall
> >>>
> >>>>>>>seemed to be the distro of choice. I had two computers that were
> >>>
> >>>likely
> >>>
> >>>>>>>candidates for the job an IBM Aptiva P166 and a Packard Bell P90.
> >>>
> >>>Both
> >>>
> >>>>>still
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>very serviceable. I also have a small collection of Linux-proven
> >>>
> >>>NIC's
> >>>
> >>>>>that
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>I thought would work just fine in this application.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>After several attempts on these two boxes, I ended up picking up
> >
> >a
> >
> >>>Dell
> >>>
> >>>>>>>Pentium 233. This computer also seems to not want to take to
> >>>
> >>>installing
> >>>
> >>>>>>>SmoothWall. I have checked the SmoothWall site for hardware
> >>>>
> >>>>compatibility
> >>>>
> >>>>>>>and the NIC's for the most part appear to be supported. Here's a
> >>
> >>list
> >>
> >>>>of
> >>>>
> >>>>>>>what I have and the Linux driver module typically used:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>PCI
> >>>>>>>RealTek 8139 10/100 - rtl8139
> >>>>>>>RealTek 8129 10 BaseT - ne2k-pc / ne2k / ne
> >>>>>>>SMC EtherPower - tulip
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>ISA
> >>>>>>>Intel EtherExpress 16 - eexpress
> >>>>>>>3Com ?? - ??
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>All three computers will get to the Green NIC probe phase and
> >
> >fail.
> >
> >>>The
> >>>
> >>>>>>>probe will not autodetect the cards. I have gone into manual mode
> >>
> >>and
> >>
> >>>>>given
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>it the appropriate module, IO and IRQ. All to no avail. These
> >
> >cards
> >
> >>>>have
> >>>>
> >>>>>all
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>worked under Windows not very long ago and some have even run
> >>>
> >>>perfectly
> >>>
> >>>>>fine
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>under other distributions of Linux. I am very careful with my
> >>>
> >>>hardware
> >>>
> >>>>so
> >>>>
> >>>>>I
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>cannot believe that they could all be bad.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>The ISO I used for burning my SmoothWall disc was checked against
> >>
> >>the
> >>
> >>>>MD5
> >>>>
> >>>>>>>Checksum and it was verified.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>I cannot believe that three computers would all refuse to take
> >
> >this
> >
> >>>>>install
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>with various NIC's in place. I enlisted Marcel's help and he
> >
> >could
> >
> >>>not
> >>>
> >>>>>>>overcome my install issues either. We're both stymied.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>Anyone have any experience they'd like to share or any advice?
> >>
> >>Thanks
> >>
> >>>>in
> >>>>
> >>>>>>>advance.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>As an aside, we even attempted to throw OpenBSD on one of the
> >
> >boxes
> >
> >>>and
> >>>
> >>>>>it
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>crapped out almost immediately. We were pretty tired at this
> >
> >point
> >
> >>so
> >>
> >>>>we
> >>>>
> >>>>>did
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>not delve too deeply into this install. It was a floppy/FTP
> >>
> >>install.
> >>
> >>>>>>>Jarrod Major
> >>>>>>>CLUG Treasurer
> >>>>>>>Registered Linux User: #224211
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Hi Jarrod
> >>>>>>I fear I may make myself look stupid here but anyway,
> >>>>>>I had problems with smoothwall myself using Dlink cards
> >>>>>>which are supposed to use realtek chips but do something weird
> >>>>>>with them. I found that startec S100 works well.
> >>>>>>Suggestion,.... Try installing with only one card ( first one then
> >>
> >>the
> >>
> >>>>>>other)
> >>>>>>This should at least isolate which card is causing problems,
> >>
> >>assuming
> >>
> >>>>>>this is not something you have allready tried.
> >>>>>>Graham
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