----- Original Message -----
From: Pat Roche <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Sunday, February 2, 2003 4:42 pm
Subject: (clug-talk) (RH8-Dell D. 2350) crashes

> I've been using Red Hat 8.0 on a Dell Dimension 2350 (2GH Celeron /
> 512MB RAM) since early January. Bottom-line impression: I love Linux.
> 
> But there's one problem I'd love to resolve. Linux has crashed while
> surfing the Web, on average, at least every two hours (during at least
> 50 hours total browsing). 
> 
> Konqueror seems more stable than Galeon and Opera, and all seem 
> somewhatmore stable than Mozilla. There's little consistency. 
> Mozilla, for
> example, crashed on the third page I accessed today (Yahoo News); but
> when I rebooted I surfed that page and many others for more than 
> an hour
> without hanging.
> 
> Meanwhile, I've worked more than 40 hours in OpenOffice Writer and can
> only recall it hanging once. Evolution rarely hangs and the CD player
> (kscd) hasn't crashed yet
> 
> To compare OSes on the same machine, I've spent about 15 hours surfing
> in Windows 2000 (using Opera, Internet Explorer and Phoenix) and had
> only two crashes -- a much better average than Linux. In each OS,
> control-alt-delete won't force a reboot after a crash.
> 
> I usually work in KDE, but didn't document any improvement during 
> aboutfour hours in GNOME (on Mozilla, Opera, Galeon and Konqueror).
> 
> Another quirk in Linux: the hard drive sometimes runs for three 
> minutesfor no reason.
> 
> Also, Evolution is very slow (maybe 10 seconds) opening HTML e-
> mails. Is
> this normal, or possibly related to my Web-browsing problem?
> 
> BACKGROUND: Inside the Dell box, there are NO CARDS. Everything -- 
> videocontroller, network controller, etc. -- is embedded in the 
> motherboard.(Luckily there were three empty slots.) The video 
> controller -- which
> wouldn't work with Linux -- could NEITHER BE REMOVED NOR DISABLED.
> 
> As a non-technical person, I was in over my head long before this 
> point.I'm much obliged to CLUG member Johnny Stork for coming up 
> with the
> various workarounds that enabled me to use Linux my new computer. (I
> just wish I'd talked to him before buying the Dell.)
> 
> The workaround Johnny came up for the video controller was to set 
> up a
> dual-monitor system and to designate the new video card (HIS TNT2 M64
> PCI) as primary and the built-in video controller as secondary. 
> (So the
> original controller which couldn't be disabled is now outputting 
> to a
> non-existent monitor.)
> 
> Does anyone have any suggestions? Do I have any options beyond selling
> the new $800 Dell at a discount to my brother-in-law (who prefers XP)
> and starting from scratch on another new computer??
> 
> Any comments or anecdotes (e.g., your own experience with bundled,
> brand-name systems, both positive and negative) will be much
> appreciated.
> 
> Thanks for reading. Sorry it's so long.
> 
> Pat

Hi Pat, 

I use a number of distributions on different hardware platforms and simply have zero 
and I do mean "ZERO" crashes, glitches nada, from Netcrap, Moz or Konqueror. I can 
only conclude that your PC has some serious hardware deficiency which is certainly not 
of your fault. I your brother inlaw wants it let him have it.He'll never know the diff 
anyway with XP anyway. Good luck....

All the best, Dan  


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