Simply switching from APIC to XPIC is enough. Linux will be fine, XP will complain.
On Sunday 02 February 2003 19:10, you wrote: > Pat, I dont recall if there was a section in the BIOS for > enabling/disabling APIC, but I would give that a try. Reboot, go into BIOS > and see if it can be disabled. Given that you are having problems in both > Linux and Win, it is almost certainly some sort of hardware or conflict > issue. At this point, also considering the suggestions from the CLUG I > would guess that the problem could be one or more of > > 1: APIC related (try to disable in BIOS). > > If it cant be disabled in BIOS maybe someone on the list can suggest how/if > drivers/modules for APIC can be disabled in Linux. Not sure if this would > fix and APIC related problem though. > > 2: Conflict due to having to run both video cards due to an inability to > disable in bios. > > 3: Memory related problem. I beleive there are a number of tools you can > run to exersize you ram to check for problems. > > > <hr> > <b><font color=blue size=4>Open Enterprise Solutions</font></b> > <b><font color=red>Linux & Open Source Solutions for Business</font></b> > > Johnny Stork, BA > Calgary, AB > Canada > > <a href="http://www.openenterprise.ca";> > www.openenterprise.ca</a> > > ------ original message ------ > From: Pat Roche <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: CLUG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Sun Feb 02 16:49:44 PST 2003 > Subject: Re: (clug-talk) (RH8-Dell D. 2350) crashes > > Thanks, Szemir. Here's what I get from df: > <br> > <br>Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on > <br>/dev/hda9 21164916 4287636 15802132 22% / > <br>/dev/hda8 101089 17303 78567 19% /boot > <br>none 256456 0 256456 0% /dev/shm > <br>/dev/hda6 10231392 106896 10124496 2% /home/pat/Data > <br> > <br>I apologize for my lack of Linux knowledge (ie, command-line ignorance) > <br>-- but I don't even know how to check var/log/messages. > <br> > <br>For what it's worth, I don't get any error messages booting up when RH8 > <br>goes through a long checklist. > <br> > <br>Pat > <br> > <br>Pat > <br> > <br>On Sun, 2003-02-02 at 17:08, Bogi wrote: > <br>> Hi Pat. > <br>> The crashing rate is above avarage for sure. > <br>> I would suggest the following barring faulty ram and or faulty hdd. > <br>> See if you have enough diskspace, browsers tend to use up (large) > amounts of <br>> diskspace to cache webstuff you access. > <br>> df command should do the trick, If your home partition , if you have > one <br>> seperate, and you should, must have atleast 100 megs free, > mozilla for <br>> starters defaults to 50 megs for chache size, the others > are not mutch <br>> different. > <br>> If you have a single partition for your home and root (/) , the > exhustion of <br>> disk space could lead to unpredictabel behaviour (crash) > when (/) gets full. <br>> also check /var/log/messages . This is the > (main) logfile, see if there are <br>> any error messages, they are usually > very helpful in situations like yours. <br>> Changing your hardware would > most definately improve on the situation. Most <br>> of the (built-in) > cards are slightly different then their stand-alone <br>> counterparts, and > not being able to turn-off / diable yours is cairtinly a <br>> very strong > indication of your problems. > <br>> So my initial suggestion is a log reading, find some error messagegs > relating <br>> to graphics_display_adapter or anything else. I have seen > really strange <br>> behaviour from motherboards like yours. > <br>> Cheers > <br>> Szemir > <br>> On Sunday 02 February 2003 16:42, you wrote: > <br>> > I've been using Red Hat 8.0 on a Dell Dimension 2350 (2GH Celeron / > <br>> > 512MB RAM) since early January. Bottom-line impression: I love > Linux. <br>> > > <br>> > But there's one problem I'd love to resolve. Linux has crashed > while <br>> > surfing the Web, on average, at least every two hours (during > at least <br>> > 50 hours total browsing). > <br>> > > <br>> > Konqueror seems more stable than Galeon and Opera, and all seem > somewhat <br>> > more stable than Mozilla. There's little consistency. > Mozilla, for <br>> > example, crashed on the third page I accessed today > (Yahoo News); but <br>> > when I rebooted I surfed that page and many > others for more than an hour <br>> > without hanging. > <br>> > > <br>> > Meanwhile, I've worked more than 40 hours in OpenOffice Writer and > can <br>> > only recall it hanging once. Evolution rarely hangs and the CD > player <br>> > (kscd) hasn't crashed yet > <br>> > > <br>> > To compare OSes on the same machine, I've spent about 15 hours > surfing <br>> > in Windows 2000 (using Opera, Internet Explorer and > Phoenix) and had <br>> > only two crashes -- a much better average than > Linux. In each OS, <br>> > control-alt-delete won't force a reboot after a > crash. > <br>> > > <br>> > I usually work in KDE, but didn't document any improvement during > about <br>> > four hours in GNOME (on Mozilla, Opera, Galeon and > Konqueror). <br>> > > <br>> > Another quirk in Linux: the hard drive sometimes runs for three > minutes <br>> > for no reason. > <br>> > > <br>> > Also, Evolution is very slow (maybe 10 seconds) opening HTML > e-mails. Is <br>> > this normal, or possibly related to my Web-browsing > problem? <br>> > > <br>> > BACKGROUND: Inside the Dell box, there are NO CARDS. Everything -- > video <br>> > controller, network controller, etc. -- is embedded in the > motherboard. <br>> > (Luckily there were three empty slots.) The video > controller -- which <br>> > wouldn't work with Linux -- could NEITHER BE > REMOVED NOR DISABLED. <br>> > > <br>> > As a non-technical person, I was in over my head long before this > point. <br>> > I'm much obliged to CLUG member Johnny Stork for coming up > with the <br>> > various workarounds that enabled me to use Linux my new > computer. (I <br>> > just wish I'd talked to him before buying the Dell.) > <br>> > > <br>> > The workaround Johnny came up for the video controller was to set > up a <br>> > dual-monitor system and to designate the new video card (HIS > TNT2 M64 <br>> > PCI) as primary and the built-in video controller as > secondary. (So the <br>> > original controller which couldn't be disabled > is now outputting to a <br>> > non-existent monitor.) > <br>> > > <br>> > Does anyone have any suggestions? Do I have any options beyond > selling <br>> > the new $800 Dell at a discount to my brother-in-law (who > prefers XP) <br>> > and starting from scratch on another new computer?? > <br>> > > <br>> > Any comments or anecdotes (e.g., your own experience with bundled, > <br>> > brand-name systems, both positive and negative) will be much > <br>> > appreciated. > <br>> > > <br>> > Thanks for reading. Sorry it's so long. > <br>> > > <br>> > Pat > <br> > <br> > <br> > <br> > > --------------------------------------------------- > The Webtop Personal Web-based Email System > http://www.yourwebtop.com
