Actually, my dual boot is with Windows 2000 Pro, not XP. If that makes any difference?). Pat
On Mon, 2003-02-03 at 18:20, Garth Meisel wrote: > And then, haven't wanted to do it for a while, but it used to be that XP > needed to be installed before Linux so that means both OS's need to be > reinstalled because XP will wipe the HD no matter what. Right? So obviously > a time saver to make sure that APIC is set and if it is, well, it's just that > simple. > > > > On Monday 03 February 2003 19:18, you wrote: > > Simply switching from APIC to XPIC is enough. Linux will be fine, XP will > > complain. > > > > On Sunday 02 February 2003 19:10, you wrote: > > > Pat, I dont recall if there was a section in the BIOS for > > > enabling/disabling APIC, but I would give that a try. Reboot, go into > > > BIOS and see if it can be disabled. Given that you are having problems in > > > both Linux and Win, it is almost certainly some sort of hardware or > > > conflict issue. At this point, also considering the suggestions from the > > > CLUG I would guess that the problem could be one or more of > > > > > > 1: APIC related (try to disable in BIOS). > > > > > > If it cant be disabled in BIOS maybe someone on the list can suggest > > > how/if drivers/modules for APIC can be disabled in Linux. Not sure if > > > this would fix and APIC related problem though. > > > > > > 2: Conflict due to having to run both video cards due to an inability to > > > disable in bios. > > > > > > 3: Memory related problem. I beleive there are a number of tools you can > > > run to exersize you ram to check for problems. > > > > > > > > > <hr> > > > <b><font color=blue size=4>Open Enterprise Solutions</font></b> > > > <b><font color=red>Linux & Open Source Solutions for Business</font></b> > > > > > > Johnny Stork, BA > > > Calgary, AB > > > Canada > > > > > > <a href="http://www.openenterprise.ca";> > > > www.openenterprise.ca</a> > > > > > > ------ original message ------ > > > From: Pat Roche <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > To: CLUG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Sent: Sun Feb 02 16:49:44 PST 2003 > > > Subject: Re: (clug-talk) (RH8-Dell D. 2350) crashes > > > > > > Thanks, Szemir. Here's what I get from df: > > > <br> > > > <br>Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on > > > <br>/dev/hda9 21164916 4287636 15802132 22% / > > > <br>/dev/hda8 101089 17303 78567 19% /boot > > > <br>none 256456 0 256456 0% /dev/shm > > > <br>/dev/hda6 10231392 106896 10124496 2% > > > /home/pat/Data <br> > > > <br>I apologize for my lack of Linux knowledge (ie, command-line > > > ignorance) <br>-- but I don't even know how to check var/log/messages. > > > <br> > > > <br>For what it's worth, I don't get any error messages booting up when > > > RH8 <br>goes through a long checklist. > > > <br> > > > <br>Pat > > > <br> > > > <br>Pat > > > <br> > > > <br>On Sun, 2003-02-02 at 17:08, Bogi wrote: > > > <br>> Hi Pat. > > > <br>> The crashing rate is above avarage for sure. > > > <br>> I would suggest the following barring faulty ram and or faulty hdd. > > > <br>> See if you have enough diskspace, browsers tend to use up (large) > > > amounts of <br>> diskspace to cache webstuff you access. > > > <br>> df command should do the trick, If your home partition , if you > > > have one <br>> seperate, and you should, must have atleast 100 megs free, > > > mozilla for <br>> starters defaults to 50 megs for chache size, the > > > others are not mutch <br>> different. > > > <br>> If you have a single partition for your home and root (/) , the > > > exhustion of <br>> disk space could lead to unpredictabel behaviour > > > (crash) when (/) gets full. <br>> also check /var/log/messages . This is > > > the (main) logfile, see if there are <br>> any error messages, they are > > > usually very helpful in situations like yours. <br>> Changing your > > > hardware would most definately improve on the situation. Most <br>> of > > > the (built-in) cards are slightly different then their stand-alone <br>> > > > counterparts, and not being able to turn-off / diable yours is cairtinly > > > a <br>> very strong indication of your problems. > > > <br>> So my initial suggestion is a log reading, find some error > > > messagegs relating <br>> to graphics_display_adapter or anything else. I > > > have seen really strange <br>> behaviour from motherboards like yours. > > > <br>> Cheers > > > <br>> Szemir > > > <br>> On Sunday 02 February 2003 16:42, you wrote: > > > <br>> > I've been using Red Hat 8.0 on a Dell Dimension 2350 (2GH Celeron > > > / <br>> > 512MB RAM) since early January. Bottom-line impression: I love > > > Linux. <br>> > > > > <br>> > But there's one problem I'd love to resolve. Linux has crashed > > > while <br>> > surfing the Web, on average, at least every two hours > > > (during at least <br>> > 50 hours total browsing). > > > <br>> > > > > <br>> > Konqueror seems more stable than Galeon and Opera, and all seem > > > somewhat <br>> > more stable than Mozilla. There's little consistency. > > > Mozilla, for <br>> > example, crashed on the third page I accessed today > > > (Yahoo News); but <br>> > when I rebooted I surfed that page and many > > > others for more than an hour <br>> > without hanging. > > > <br>> > > > > <br>> > Meanwhile, I've worked more than 40 hours in OpenOffice Writer > > > and can <br>> > only recall it hanging once. Evolution rarely hangs and > > > the CD player <br>> > (kscd) hasn't crashed yet > > > <br>> > > > > <br>> > To compare OSes on the same machine, I've spent about 15 hours > > > surfing <br>> > in Windows 2000 (using Opera, Internet Explorer and > > > Phoenix) and had <br>> > only two crashes -- a much better average than > > > Linux. In each OS, <br>> > control-alt-delete won't force a reboot after > > > a crash. > > > <br>> > > > > <br>> > I usually work in KDE, but didn't document any improvement during > > > about <br>> > four hours in GNOME (on Mozilla, Opera, Galeon and > > > Konqueror). <br>> > > > > <br>> > Another quirk in Linux: the hard drive sometimes runs for three > > > minutes <br>> > for no reason. > > > <br>> > > > > <br>> > Also, Evolution is very slow (maybe 10 seconds) opening HTML > > > e-mails. Is <br>> > this normal, or possibly related to my Web-browsing > > > problem? <br>> > > > > <br>> > BACKGROUND: Inside the Dell box, there are NO CARDS. Everything > > > -- video <br>> > controller, network controller, etc. -- is embedded in > > > the motherboard. <br>> > (Luckily there were three empty slots.) The > > > video controller -- which <br>> > wouldn't work with Linux -- could > > > NEITHER BE REMOVED NOR DISABLED. <br>> > > > > <br>> > As a non-technical person, I was in over my head long before this > > > point. <br>> > I'm much obliged to CLUG member Johnny Stork for coming up > > > with the <br>> > various workarounds that enabled me to use Linux my new > > > computer. (I <br>> > just wish I'd talked to him before buying the Dell.) > > > <br>> > > > > <br>> > The workaround Johnny came up for the video controller was to set > > > up a <br>> > dual-monitor system and to designate the new video card (HIS > > > TNT2 M64 <br>> > PCI) as primary and the built-in video controller as > > > secondary. (So the <br>> > original controller which couldn't be disabled > > > is now outputting to a <br>> > non-existent monitor.) > > > <br>> > > > > <br>> > Does anyone have any suggestions? Do I have any options beyond > > > selling <br>> > the new $800 Dell at a discount to my brother-in-law (who > > > prefers XP) <br>> > and starting from scratch on another new computer?? > > > <br>> > > > > <br>> > Any comments or anecdotes (e.g., your own experience with > > > bundled, <br>> > brand-name systems, both positive and negative) will be > > > much <br>> > appreciated. > > > <br>> > > > > <br>> > Thanks for reading. Sorry it's so long. > > > <br>> > > > > <br>> > Pat > > > <br> > > > <br> > > > <br> > > > <br> > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------- > > > The Webtop Personal Web-based Email System > > > http://www.yourwebtop.com >
