XP won't wipe the hd. It will however wipe the mbr, a quick boot-up with a linux rescue disk/cdrom or other suitable linux bootmedia and you can just reinstall the linux bootloader. No need to reinstall xp.
-- Personal: Trevor Lauder Web: http://www.thelauders.net E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Work: Trevor Lauder Technical Services Specialist Wireless Networks Inc. Web: http://www.wirelessnetworksinc.com E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Garth Meisel said: > And then, haven't wanted to do it for a while, but it used to be that XP > needed to be installed before Linux so that means both OS's need to be > reinstalled because XP will wipe the HD no matter what. Right? So > obviously a time saver to make sure that APIC is set and if it is, > well, it's just that simple. > > > > On Monday 03 February 2003 19:18, you wrote: >> Simply switching from APIC to XPIC is enough. Linux will be fine, XP >> will complain. >> >> On Sunday 02 February 2003 19:10, you wrote: >> > Pat, I dont recall if there was a section in the BIOS for >> > enabling/disabling APIC, but I would give that a try. Reboot, go >> into BIOS and see if it can be disabled. Given that you are having >> problems in both Linux and Win, it is almost certainly some sort of >> hardware or conflict issue. At this point, also considering the >> suggestions from the CLUG I would guess that the problem could be >> one or more of >> > >> > 1: APIC related (try to disable in BIOS). >> > >> > If it cant be disabled in BIOS maybe someone on the list can suggest >> how/if drivers/modules for APIC can be disabled in Linux. Not sure >> if this would fix and APIC related problem though. >> > >> > 2: Conflict due to having to run both video cards due to an >> inability to disable in bios. >> > >> > 3: Memory related problem. I beleive there are a number of tools you >> can run to exersize you ram to check for problems. >> > >> > >> > <hr> >> > <b><font color=blue size=4>Open Enterprise Solutions</font></b> >> <b><font color=red>Linux & Open Source Solutions for >> Business</font></b> >> > >> > Johnny Stork, BA >> > Calgary, AB >> > Canada >> > >> > <a href="http://www.openenterprise.ca";> >> > www.openenterprise.ca</a> >> > >> > ------ original message ------ >> > From: Pat Roche <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> > To: CLUG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> > Sent: Sun Feb 02 16:49:44 PST 2003 >> > Subject: Re: (clug-talk) (RH8-Dell D. 2350) crashes >> > >> > Thanks, Szemir. Here's what I get from df: >> > <br> >> > <br>Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted >> on <br>/dev/hda9 21164916 4287636 15802132 22% / >> > <br>/dev/hda8 101089 17303 78567 19% /boot >> <br>none 256456 0 256456 0% /dev/shm >> <br>/dev/hda6 10231392 106896 10124496 2% >> > /home/pat/Data <br> >> > <br>I apologize for my lack of Linux knowledge (ie, command-line >> ignorance) <br>-- but I don't even know how to check >> var/log/messages. <br> >> > <br>For what it's worth, I don't get any error messages booting up >> when RH8 <br>goes through a long checklist. >> > <br> >> > <br>Pat >> > <br> >> > <br>Pat >> > <br> >> > <br>On Sun, 2003-02-02 at 17:08, Bogi wrote: >> > <br>> Hi Pat. >> > <br>> The crashing rate is above avarage for sure. >> > <br>> I would suggest the following barring faulty ram and or faulty >> hdd. <br>> See if you have enough diskspace, browsers tend to use up >> (large) amounts of <br>> diskspace to cache webstuff you access. >> > <br>> df command should do the trick, If your home partition , if >> you have one <br>> seperate, and you should, must have atleast 100 >> megs free, mozilla for <br>> starters defaults to 50 megs for chache >> size, the others are not mutch <br>> different. >> > <br>> If you have a single partition for your home and root (/) , >> the exhustion of <br>> disk space could lead to unpredictabel >> behaviour (crash) when (/) gets full. <br>> also check >> /var/log/messages . This is the (main) logfile, see if there are >> <br>> any error messages, they are usually very helpful in >> situations like yours. <br>> Changing your hardware would most >> definately improve on the situation. Most <br>> of the (built-in) >> cards are slightly different then their stand-alone <br>> >> counterparts, and not being able to turn-off / diable yours is >> cairtinly a <br>> very strong indication of your problems. >> > <br>> So my initial suggestion is a log reading, find some error >> messagegs relating <br>> to graphics_display_adapter or anything >> else. I have seen really strange <br>> behaviour from motherboards >> like yours. <br>> Cheers >> > <br>> Szemir >> > <br>> On Sunday 02 February 2003 16:42, you wrote: >> > <br>> > I've been using Red Hat 8.0 on a Dell Dimension 2350 (2GH >> Celeron / <br>> > 512MB RAM) since early January. Bottom-line >> impression: I love Linux. <br>> > >> > <br>> > But there's one problem I'd love to resolve. Linux has >> crashed while <br>> > surfing the Web, on average, at least every >> two hours (during at least <br>> > 50 hours total browsing). >> > <br>> > >> > <br>> > Konqueror seems more stable than Galeon and Opera, and all >> seem somewhat <br>> > more stable than Mozilla. There's little >> consistency. Mozilla, for <br>> > example, crashed on the third page >> I accessed today (Yahoo News); but <br>> > when I rebooted I surfed >> that page and many others for more than an hour <br>> > without >> hanging. >> > <br>> > >> > <br>> > Meanwhile, I've worked more than 40 hours in OpenOffice >> Writer and can <br>> > only recall it hanging once. Evolution rarely >> hangs and the CD player <br>> > (kscd) hasn't crashed yet >> > <br>> > >> > <br>> > To compare OSes on the same machine, I've spent about 15 >> hours surfing <br>> > in Windows 2000 (using Opera, Internet >> Explorer and Phoenix) and had <br>> > only two crashes -- a much >> better average than Linux. In each OS, <br>> > control-alt-delete >> won't force a reboot after a crash. >> > <br>> > >> > <br>> > I usually work in KDE, but didn't document any improvement >> during about <br>> > four hours in GNOME (on Mozilla, Opera, Galeon >> and Konqueror). <br>> > >> > <br>> > Another quirk in Linux: the hard drive sometimes runs for >> three minutes <br>> > for no reason. >> > <br>> > >> > <br>> > Also, Evolution is very slow (maybe 10 seconds) opening HTML >> e-mails. Is <br>> > this normal, or possibly related to my >> Web-browsing problem? <br>> > >> > <br>> > BACKGROUND: Inside the Dell box, there are NO CARDS. >> Everything -- video <br>> > controller, network controller, etc. -- >> is embedded in the motherboard. <br>> > (Luckily there were three >> empty slots.) The video controller -- which <br>> > wouldn't work >> with Linux -- could NEITHER BE REMOVED NOR DISABLED. <br>> > >> > <br>> > As a non-technical person, I was in over my head long before >> this point. <br>> > I'm much obliged to CLUG member Johnny Stork for >> coming up with the <br>> > various workarounds that enabled me to >> use Linux my new computer. (I <br>> > just wish I'd talked to him >> before buying the Dell.) <br>> > >> > <br>> > The workaround Johnny came up for the video controller was >> to set up a <br>> > dual-monitor system and to designate the new >> video card (HIS TNT2 M64 <br>> > PCI) as primary and the built-in >> video controller as secondary. (So the <br>> > original controller >> which couldn't be disabled is now outputting to a <br>> > >> non-existent monitor.) >> > <br>> > >> > <br>> > Does anyone have any suggestions? Do I have any options >> beyond selling <br>> > the new $800 Dell at a discount to my >> brother-in-law (who prefers XP) <br>> > and starting from scratch on >> another new computer?? <br>> > >> > <br>> > Any comments or anecdotes (e.g., your own experience with >> bundled, <br>> > brand-name systems, both positive and negative) >> will be much <br>> > appreciated. >> > <br>> > >> > <br>> > Thanks for reading. Sorry it's so long. >> > <br>> > >> > <br>> > Pat >> > <br> >> > <br> >> > <br> >> > <br> >> > >> > --------------------------------------------------- >> > The Webtop Personal Web-based Email System >> > http://www.yourwebtop.com
