My only concern with the UofC is that the booking would probably have
to go through the Student Union.  Based on past experiences they were
pretty expensive to rent / book rooms for events for non SU
activities.  I know this because I ran a club while I was a student
there and though the rooms were free to SU clubs, SU club activities
were pretty expensive.

Maybe we can get a SU club to host our meetings. ;}


On Mon, 16 Aug 2004 14:45:51 -0600, Brad Camroux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 16, 2004 at 09:15:25AM -0600, Jarrod Major wrote:
> > > First, I appreciate being "kept in the loop" - this shows some good
> > > leadership... (er, how many brownie points for that one?)
> >
> > To be honest that was Kari keeping us on the straight-and-narrow. You are welcome.
> 
> Guess it doesn't really matter *who* earned the brownie points -- more that we were 
> kept in
> the loop is all that matters.
> 
> > > Second, I think SAIT should have an opportunity to counter offer, but if they
> > > don't respond in a timely manner they will have effectively said we aren't
> > > worthy of a counter offer / decision.  Do they know we have an opportunity to
> > > meet elsewhere?  Do they view the group as a good PR type thing, or a
> > > necessary evil to keep students/instructors happy and/or utilize otherwise
> > > dead space?  Basically, do they feel they get something in return?  If not,
> > > then I don't think we'll ever have a stable situation with them.
> >
> > SAIT have been given the opportunity to counter-offer, no word yet. No they are 
> > not aware of the DeVry offer. Officially we have been flying under the radar. The 
> > officials at SAIT aren't even aware that we have been meeting there. I know we 
> > have had a number of SAIT students and a few instructors show up to meetings I 
> > hope that they will stay with us if we move. Stability is certainly an issue with 
> > SAIT as it stands now.
> 
> As another option, has anyone considered approaching the University of Calgary on 
> this issue?
> Granted, the campus is much larger than SAIT or DeVry, but if the meetings were held 
> in
> the Math Science, Earth Science, or ICT Buildings, navigation shouldn't be too 
> difficult.
> (ICT rooms would have the advantage of having an overhead data projector, though 
> more and more
> rooms are being equipped with them, and if necessary Com/Media can bring one in.)
> 
> > > Third, Is DeVry talking about a permanent arrangement?  Will we need to go
> > > through this again in a few months or a year?  What happens if we out-grow
> > > the room they are offering?  We've been pushing 70 or so people at some of
> > > the meetings lately - I don't think it'd be a big push to grow over 100
> > > people.  Do they have other rooms available?
> >
> > DeVry have left this open ended as far as we are concerned. We can have the space 
> > for as long as we want it. AFAIK we have at least a year of guaranteed space, no 
> > penalty to leave at any time. The only thing they have asked for (actually we 
> > offered) is the advertising on our website under sponsors and plugging them at 
> > meetings. This is all stuff I do as a a matter of course anyway, no hardship here. 
> > The room we have tentatively been offered could have extra chairs brought in to 
> > grow over 100 but we may still have further options...
> 
> Yes, it is very nice to have a stable meeting place.  The biggest advantages of the 
> SAIT or
> UofC locations would be that the train line goes right through or directly adjacent 
> to the
> campus.  The biggest disadvantage of the University option would be parking, as I 
> believe it
> is slightly more expensive than at SAIT, but I'm not sure because I don't drive on a 
> regular
> basis (I'm a slave to Calgary Transit).
> 
> > > As for location, DeVry or SAIT are both easy to get too.  (There are a number
> > > of buses that run from the Franklin or Marlborough c-train stations that
> > > service a good chuck of the NE/SE areas around there.  Both stations are
> > > within walking distance of DeVry).
> >
> > I think this is well covered.
> >
> > > I don't envy the choice the executive has to make, but trust they will make
> > > the choice that is best for the group.
> >
> > It is a huge issue to try and keep our meeting place fairly stable. We have not 
> > paid anyone for the use of facilities thus far and that is a huge thing. How many 
> > organizations can say that they don't pay for their meeting place? Not many I'd 
> > wager. We are still not big enough to be able to cover those kind of costs. I 
> > think it is encouraging that we have grown big enough (or interesting or 
> > what-have-you) to catch the eye of places like DeVry. They are wooing us not the 
> > other way around.
> >
> > > Thanks for keeping us informed Jarrod.
> >
> > Thank the Executive as a whole, I'm only part of the team. It's not really fair 
> > for the 'front-man' to always get the kudos, the rest of the band are just as 
> > important.
> 
> Indeed.  Thanks to everyone on the Executive for their efforts.
> 
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