So Gustin, could you do an IpCop-pfsense  presentation, and i would chew 
myself into Endian and have these three firewall/router distros presented in 
a full presentation sometimes in April maybe ?

Cheers
Szemir

On January 3, 2007 11:52, Gustin Johnson wrote:
> That sounds like a good idea.  I am also very familiar with IPCop (I
> have several in production at client sites), so I could also present
> that as well.  At least there will be a token attempt to stay on topic :)
>
> One hurdle we seem to keep bumping into on the lists is networking
> fundamentals.  The idea I have is still somewhat nebulous, but I was
> thinking of a Networking Workshop, focusing on FOSS at the various
> points on a given network.  This is a big topic (firewalls, routers,
> switching, border defense, IPS/IDS, VPNs, etc.) so we may want to narrow
> the focus a little.
>
> Just a thought.
>
> Cheers,
>
> bogi wrote:
> > It sure looks very capable, maybe we could do a presentation on it in the
> > near future, I know, it is not linux, but it is open source for sure :-)
> > It looks like a fork of m0n0, only double the functionality, very
> > intresting.
> >
> > I have also stumbled yesterday upon a Endian firewall,
> > http://www.endian.it/en/community/
> > Yes i know it is Italian, just got the iso yesterday, will give it a
> > whirl and tell you more about it. We could stitch a full presentation of
> > these 2 firewalls including the extra features and a live demo of both
> > one of those days.
> >
> > Cheers
> > Szemir
> >
> > On January 3, 2007 02:25, Gustin Johnson wrote:
> >> I find pfsense to be more elegantly designed than IPCop.   IPCop is good
> >> for a generic firewall/router, but I find it very awkward to customize
> >> it beyond the default install.  IPCop's shortcomings become quite
> >> evident when you have a bunch to manage.  Plus outbound filtering
> >> requires a mildly clumsy hack with ipcop, not so with pfsense.
> >>
> >> Pfsense also does failover (it can handle two concurrent ISPs), it can
> >> also cluster for HA, all out of the box.  These are things that IPCop
> >> cannot do.
> >>
> >> Mitchell Brown wrote:
> >>> I find that the firewall configuration in m0n0wall is more convoluted
> >>> then in IPCop. It doesn't open ports automatically, etc. It's just
> >>> clumsy imho.
> >>>
> >>> On 1/2/07, Gustin Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>> While both are excellent Open Source projects, neither really fits as a
> >>> presentation for the Calgary *LINUX* Users Group :)
> >>>
> >>> Interestingly enough, I prefer pfsense to IPCop, I have a box that can
> >>> be used as a demo.  Maybe better for a show'n tell meeting.
> >>>
> >>> Mitchell Brown wrote:
> >>>>>> PFSense? m0n0wall?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Monowall, while cumbersome to install, is amazing.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On 1/2/07, Shawn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>>>>> IPCop was presented last May - http://www.clug.ca/node/413
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> It hasn't really changed much since then, so I personally think a
> >>>>>> different presentation is in order... :)
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Shawn
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> bogi wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> I think IpCop definitely deserves a good presentation, it has
> >>>>>>>>> been quite the time since we had a firewall or networking
> >>>>>>>>> presentation. I would also go into installing extra modules onto
> >>>>>>>>> IpCop for content filtering and Parenting purposes, yep, kids are
> >>>>>>>>> getting older ...
> >>>
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