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That sounds like a good idea.  I am also very familiar with IPCop (I
have several in production at client sites), so I could also present
that as well.  At least there will be a token attempt to stay on topic :)

One hurdle we seem to keep bumping into on the lists is networking
fundamentals.  The idea I have is still somewhat nebulous, but I was
thinking of a Networking Workshop, focusing on FOSS at the various
points on a given network.  This is a big topic (firewalls, routers,
switching, border defense, IPS/IDS, VPNs, etc.) so we may want to narrow
the focus a little.

Just a thought.

Cheers,

bogi wrote:
> It sure looks very capable, maybe we could do a presentation on it in the 
> near 
> future, I know, it is not linux, but it is open source for sure :-)
> It looks like a fork of m0n0, only double the functionality, very intresting.
> 
> I have also stumbled yesterday upon a Endian firewall, 
> http://www.endian.it/en/community/
> Yes i know it is Italian, just got the iso yesterday, will give it a whirl 
> and 
> tell you more about it. We could stitch a full presentation of these 2 
> firewalls including the extra features and a live demo of both one of those 
> days.
> 
> Cheers
> Szemir
> 
> On January 3, 2007 02:25, Gustin Johnson wrote:
>> I find pfsense to be more elegantly designed than IPCop.   IPCop is good
>> for a generic firewall/router, but I find it very awkward to customize
>> it beyond the default install.  IPCop's shortcomings become quite
>> evident when you have a bunch to manage.  Plus outbound filtering
>> requires a mildly clumsy hack with ipcop, not so with pfsense.
>>
>> Pfsense also does failover (it can handle two concurrent ISPs), it can
>> also cluster for HA, all out of the box.  These are things that IPCop
>> cannot do.
>>
>> Mitchell Brown wrote:
>>> I find that the firewall configuration in m0n0wall is more convoluted
>>> then in IPCop. It doesn't open ports automatically, etc. It's just
>>> clumsy imho.
>>>
>>> On 1/2/07, Gustin Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> While both are excellent Open Source projects, neither really fits as a
>>> presentation for the Calgary *LINUX* Users Group :)
>>>
>>> Interestingly enough, I prefer pfsense to IPCop, I have a box that can
>>> be used as a demo.  Maybe better for a show'n tell meeting.
>>>
>>> Mitchell Brown wrote:
>>>>>> PFSense? m0n0wall?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Monowall, while cumbersome to install, is amazing.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 1/2/07, Shawn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>>> IPCop was presented last May - http://www.clug.ca/node/413
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It hasn't really changed much since then, so I personally think a
>>>>>> different presentation is in order... :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Shawn
>>>>>>
>>>>>> bogi wrote:
>>>>>>>>> I think IpCop definitely deserves a good presentation, it has been
>>>>>>>>> quite the time since we had a firewall or networking presentation.
>>>>>>>>> I would also go into installing extra modules onto IpCop for
>>>>>>>>> content filtering and Parenting purposes, yep, kids are getting
>>>>>>>>> older ...
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