+1 On Wed, 2012-01-18 at 22:06 -0700, Shawn wrote: > On 12-01-18 07:28 PM, TekBudda wrote: > > Examples of what is outlined in the above can EASILY be seen in today's > > society. > > Psst... examples like that can be found on any given day at most points > in history. I don't mean to belittle your thoughts, but I don't see > this situation in the same light. You may, and that is your > prerogative. But if the point is that neutral, it may not apply to the > issue at hand. > > > On 1/18/2012 6:32 PM, Greg King wrote: > >> Apparently one of these bills has been killed. > >> http://www.forbes.com/sites/johngaudiosi/2012/01/16/obama-says-so-long-sopa-killing-controversial-internet-piracy-legislation/ > > I won't belive it is "killed" until it has been tossed from collective > consciousness and forgotten for more than 20 years. These same "thou > shalt not copy!" issues came up with cassette tapes, VCRs, DVDs, etc. > The content industry is rather stubborn when change is in the air, yet > turn around and find a way to profit very nicely from that change. > > THIS time is a little different because the Internet is the great > equalizer. It is now very hard for corporations to pull crap that goes > unnoticed. It was noticed this time, and the process has been subjected > to xray vision. That is, it is very clear that the big, established > media companies want to stop sharing of information SO badly that they > are willing to buy off politicians. And politicians are being exposed > as bought puppets. I think THOSE are grounds for the general public to > get just a little irked and react. > > As for the new Defense Authorization Act - people have been made to be > afraid, and so feel that giving up a little freedom / liberty so they > can feel safe is a fair trade. But as the quote goes "give up liberty > for safety, and you shall have neither". So, the public may have missed > the boat on many of these, but instead of pointing out that the mob > should be indifferent this time just cuz they were last time, we should > be celebrating that society is taking a stand to retain some of their > liberties. > > For this reason, my business website went dark today as well. > > Shawn > > > >> > >> I'm a little surprised at the amount of popular uprising against this > >> legislation, given that the passage of the National Defense Authorization > >> Act on New years Eve, which allows for the indefinite detention of > >> American citizens, passed without much outrage at all. The USA is now one > >> giant Guantanamo Bay and I'm sure visitors to the USA could get the same > >> or worse treatment without any due process based on the whims of the > >> powers that be. See > >> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/12/31/obama-defense-bill_n_1177836.html > >> > >> Greg > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> clug-talk mailing list > >> [email protected] > >> http://clug.ca/mailman/listinfo/clug-talk_clug.ca > >> Mailing List Guidelines (http://clug.ca/ml_guidelines.php) > >> **Please remove these lines when replying > > > > _______________________________________________ > > clug-talk mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://clug.ca/mailman/listinfo/clug-talk_clug.ca > > Mailing List Guidelines (http://clug.ca/ml_guidelines.php) > > **Please remove these lines when replying > > _______________________________________________ > clug-talk mailing list > [email protected] > http://clug.ca/mailman/listinfo/clug-talk_clug.ca > Mailing List Guidelines (http://clug.ca/ml_guidelines.php) > **Please remove these lines when replying
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