Who were you +1'ing John? On 1/18/2012 10:18 PM, John Jardine wrote: > +1 > > On Wed, 2012-01-18 at 22:06 -0700, Shawn wrote: >> On 12-01-18 07:28 PM, TekBudda wrote: >>> Examples of what is outlined in the above can EASILY be seen in today's >>> society. >> >> Psst... examples like that can be found on any given day at most points >> in history. I don't mean to belittle your thoughts, but I don't see >> this situation in the same light. You may, and that is your >> prerogative. But if the point is that neutral, it may not apply to the >> issue at hand. >> >>> On 1/18/2012 6:32 PM, Greg King wrote: >>>> Apparently one of these bills has been killed. >>>> http://www.forbes.com/sites/johngaudiosi/2012/01/16/obama-says-so-long-sopa-killing-controversial-internet-piracy-legislation/ >> >> I won't belive it is "killed" until it has been tossed from collective >> consciousness and forgotten for more than 20 years. These same "thou >> shalt not copy!" issues came up with cassette tapes, VCRs, DVDs, etc. >> The content industry is rather stubborn when change is in the air, yet >> turn around and find a way to profit very nicely from that change. >> >> THIS time is a little different because the Internet is the great >> equalizer. It is now very hard for corporations to pull crap that goes >> unnoticed. It was noticed this time, and the process has been subjected >> to xray vision. That is, it is very clear that the big, established >> media companies want to stop sharing of information SO badly that they >> are willing to buy off politicians. And politicians are being exposed >> as bought puppets. I think THOSE are grounds for the general public to >> get just a little irked and react. >> >> As for the new Defense Authorization Act - people have been made to be >> afraid, and so feel that giving up a little freedom / liberty so they >> can feel safe is a fair trade. But as the quote goes "give up liberty >> for safety, and you shall have neither". So, the public may have missed >> the boat on many of these, but instead of pointing out that the mob >> should be indifferent this time just cuz they were last time, we should >> be celebrating that society is taking a stand to retain some of their >> liberties. >> >> For this reason, my business website went dark today as well. >> >> Shawn >> >> >>>> >>>> I'm a little surprised at the amount of popular uprising against this >>>> legislation, given that the passage of the National Defense Authorization >>>> Act on New years Eve, which allows for the indefinite detention of >>>> American citizens, passed without much outrage at all. The USA is now one >>>> giant Guantanamo Bay and I'm sure visitors to the USA could get the same >>>> or worse treatment without any due process based on the whims of the >>>> powers that be. See >>>> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/12/31/obama-defense-bill_n_1177836.html >>>> >>>> Greg >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> clug-talk mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> http://clug.ca/mailman/listinfo/clug-talk_clug.ca >>>> Mailing List Guidelines (http://clug.ca/ml_guidelines.php) >>>> **Please remove these lines when replying >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> clug-talk mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://clug.ca/mailman/listinfo/clug-talk_clug.ca >>> Mailing List Guidelines (http://clug.ca/ml_guidelines.php) >>> **Please remove these lines when replying >> >> _______________________________________________ >> clug-talk mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://clug.ca/mailman/listinfo/clug-talk_clug.ca >> Mailing List Guidelines (http://clug.ca/ml_guidelines.php) >> **Please remove these lines when replying > > > > _______________________________________________ > clug-talk mailing list > [email protected] > http://clug.ca/mailman/listinfo/clug-talk_clug.ca > Mailing List Guidelines (http://clug.ca/ml_guidelines.php) > **Please remove these lines when replying
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